JJ o.s. ?

no jj os on 5k, hardware platform differs, no shared personnel between 5k dev team and mpost 1k machines

renegadebliss wrote:

jocks wrote:It should be up to JJ if they want to hack the OS, just like before
.

Hmmm... JJ stole the Source Code for the OS's, he didn't hack them. So it's really up
to whether Akai wants to give him access to the Source Code, He didn't uncompile it from the sysex update....


But OJ Reem keeps indicating that "JJ" is back at Akai though I don't know how he knows this, so you may have to ask him, though if I was Akai, I wouldn't be hiring somebody who stole my source code back myself

I dont really think he stole them in the first place.

very sorry to bring this thread up, but I was going to post a question pertaining to the JJos vs. the current 5k OS. A quick search and I found this thread!

1. The big question here should be, why hasn't akai publicly taken action against this so called JJ person? If so, show me please....

2. Why hasn't there been any cease and desist orders? The moderator of this site would have been notified immediately if this was the case.

So basically the following theories apply:


1. either Akai is too lazy to take action
2. Akai is freeloading off the input of this JJ person,
3. or as Bdrake said, 1k users were/are beta testers for things to come, courtesy of Numark...

A yamaha rep on the Motif forum told me that music companies are required by law to support a product 4 years after its release date. In Akai's situation, not only are they "supporting" the 1k users, they're possibly $$$ them through the JJOS.

The sad part for 5k users, is that all of our features can be had in a machine thats 3/4 less!

Either way you put it... the whole story surrounding this JJ guy is shady. The Roland MV-8000 timing sucks, but at least roland customer support is excellent....

Dave Smith needs to hurry up already

diegoeskryptic wrote:very sorry to bring this thread up, but I was going to post a question pertaining to the JJos vs. the current 5k OS. A quick search and I found this thread!

1. The big question here should be, why hasn't akai publicly taken action against this so called JJ person? If so, show me please....

2. Why hasn't there been any cease and desist orders? The moderator of this site would have been notified immediately if this was the case.

So basically the following theories apply:


1. either Akai is too lazy to take action
2. Akai is freeloading off the input of this JJ person,
3. or as Bdrake said, 1k users were/are beta testers for things to come, courtesy of Numark...

A yamaha rep on the Motif forum told me that music companies are required by law to support a product 4 years after its release date. In Akai's situation, not only are they "supporting" the 1k users, they're possibly $$$ them through the JJOS.

The sad part for 5k users, is that all of our features can be had in a machine thats 3/4 less!

Either way you put it... the whole story surrounding this JJ guy is shady. The Roland MV-8000 timing sucks, but at least roland customer support is excellent....

Dave Smith needs to hurry up already

So Diegoeskryptic, whats your conclusion about the 5000 or opinion

4dahaterz wrote:So Diegoeskryptic, whats your conclusion about the 5000 or opinion

::Sigh::..... well. My heres my opinion based on my needs as a producer.


out of all the samplers i've owned: MV8k, 1000, 2000(from Jahrome), 4000(from Needlz, check the 4k forums for pics) and 5000... I would have to say that the 4k wins for my needs. Im not into sampling like most, so the keygrouping option was a huuuuuge plus for me.

However, the 5k wins because its not big and doofy, and it has a better screen. Yup, thats all I need..

Setting up sample programs is a b1tch, but you can setup programs as you go or you can have pre-made folders on the PC. i use Fl studio to preview sounds faster and send the kits back into the MPC.

The sad part is that the 1k with JJos is the 5k at half price. I can easily get the 1k. But I've been there and I wasn't happy. Making beats on the 1k is like making beats on a calculator.. the f^ck outta here...


One has to question why did Numark/Akai, put a "less-superior" MPC5000 as its flagship machine? Here's my theory

Akai put out a less-superior product with hopes that Roland will drop a less superior drumMachine based off than less-superior 5k.

Remember, the 8k is a direct copy-cat of the 4000. The 8k put Akai in second place in the world of Hardware samplers. Akai, wasn't having that this time around. So they put out a 3500 under the guise of a 5000 and called it flagship. Im guessing they were hoping roland was gonna take the bait.

I can easily sell the 5k and get a cheaper jjOS machine thats half the price. But, why would I do that? We still are in beta. I have a nice synth onboard, I have a big ass blue screen and I only paid 1,800 free shipping!!

SO yeah, the hardware sampler war aint over yet. We just have to wait until winter NAMM.

Does anyone on this forum actually spend time creating music?

zuckwheat wrote:Does anyone on this forum actually spend time creating music?

No thats why when the mixtapes drop out of 676137617486463 "producers" we get like 3 submissions. The funny part is alot of guys talk all this gear superiority sh*t but would get murked pound for pound on the beats. Me personally I dont care, the 5k looks dope but I gets BUSY on the 1000 thats my choice all that other ish is just gum-bumpin....

i feel ya....

Dave Smith needs to hurry up already

I agree totally on that!

I also think that Akai will continue to have problems whilst this JJ guy is producing better OS' than their own.

It's a very strange situation for sure.

verb wrote:Do you cats think jj would be able write a os for the 5000
given that it's closer to the 1000/2500 os then the 4000 ?
could you imagine what that would be like given the 5000
has more ram. mmmm.

I'm not going to sort through the three pages of replies. Instead I'm going to hope someone nails your ass for this one. If not, here it goes.

What the **** do you need a JJ O.S. for this thing for? If you think it needs a JJ OS, you obviously a.) don't own one or b.) don't know how to use the **** you've got.

**** a JJ OS, read the manual. How's that sound? Sure it's got bugs, but big **** deal. The numbers don't change on the first click of the jogwheel. Or a button sticks. Having a JJ OS isn't going to help you not be a douche bag wannabe that can't **** handle their shit.

Why don't you just get a speak and spell and make music with that. You'd probably want a JJ OS for that, too.

zuckwheat wrote:Does anyone on this forum actually spend time creating music?

Yeah, I do.

I visit this forum maybe once every other week, to see if there is anything useful or helpful on it. And, of course, there's really not because everyone wants to just talk about how it needs a JJ OS. Stupid.

Anyway, **** y'all, you're a bunch of lames, I'm going to get back to it.

Have fun arguing about features and not making music you sucka ass busters.

diegoeskryptic... would you rather reffer someone the the 5k.. or the 2.5k with the JJ os? at first it seemd like you were happy with your purchess, but now it looks different.

mdiddy05 wrote:diegoeskryptic... would you rather reffer someone the the 5k.. or the 2.5k with the JJ os? at first it seemd like you were happy with your purchess, but now it looks different.

I refer the 5k only if one can afford it. otherwise, if ur used to using MPC's and your strapped for cash, go for the 2.5k with jjOS or the 1k or the mpd32 with reason. Same functionality.

Im sticking with the 5k. Only way I'll sell is if the LinnDrumII is worth it...

jocks wrote:If Akai decide to compete with JJ this time, there won't be any reason for an OS hack.

compete? jj saved their butts. and i'm sure they're too (for lack of a better word) STUPID to comply with that dude anyway. the odd thing about akai is i am 150% satisfied with my 2500 right now, but i couldn't be more bitter towards the company itself. i don't even give them credit for loving the machine tho. jj kinda saved it for me. hell when i was chopping on the akai os i was thinking "damn... really?" jj is much faster. LONG LIVE JJ OS

and i hate the 5k personally (i'm just a loser so don't take it too serious ) but then again, nym said it - for that boom bap hip hop the 5k is a drastic over kill. and thats what i happen to favor so agree to disagree. i'll leave your forum now...

...for now

diegoeskryptic wrote:The sad part for 5k users, is that all of our features can be had in a machine thats 3/4 less!

You Mad Son?

All I can say to the collectors in here is I told you so.

I got a 1k with JJOS2 and a 2500 with JJOS2, and I make 5 beats every 3 Days BUG FREE.