Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.

By KoolSha178 Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:30 am
elmacaco wrote:my reaction is, eh?

Not so good, check it out is the only one that sounds like it was done on old gear, the rest really sounds like reason. They use the same reason preset snare in a few tracks. I saw an interview where mike D said he switched to computers cuz it is so easy and portable, and he has 2 mpc 2000's collecting dust. Coming from a former 60 user, that's some serious traitor ish.

Even the electronic sounds sound so plasticy and weak. Hello Nasty was much better with Ad Rock at the sp 1200 and lots of analog stuff banging.

I think computers make people lazy, and reason can be used well but seldom is.


amen *****. i can defintley hear that sonic slouchiness in theor new record. i downloaded i and thought it would soud like check it out, but it does sound like a reaon record. thus a ***** refuses to purchase the material album. 2.
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By pt3r Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:53 am
For me beasties were at their best on paul's boutique (most slept on album of the beasties) and check your head, Ill communication had also a few bangers but since then the quality is going down. That switch to reason definitely **** up their sound imo.
By trkkazulu Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:34 am
I couldn't help getting in on the Reason issue. Really, all of those soft synths and virtual studios are wack. Nothing sounds as good as the MPC. Not to mention the user-friendliness of the MPC interface and groove of the sequencer.

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By DJAndreas Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:35 am
elmacaco wrote:my reaction is, eh?

Not so good, check it out is the only one that sounds like it was done on old gear, the rest really sounds like reason. They use the same reason preset snare in a few tracks. I saw an interview where mike D said he switched to computers cuz it is so easy and portable, and he has 2 mpc 2000's collecting dust. Coming from a former 60 user, that's some serious traitor ish.

Even the electronic sounds sound so plasticy and weak. Hello Nasty was much better with Ad Rock at the sp 1200 and lots of analog stuff banging.

I think computers make people lazy, and reason can be used well but seldom is.

I read the same interview. So you think its "reason?"

I think the album is brilliant, but Im a big beastie boy fan. I also heard that Mike D likes to use the 2000, MCA the 60 and ofcourse adrock the 1200.
Have you worked on reason?

By arctec Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:54 am
"be true to yourself and you will never fall."---mike D

BTW I Hate Reason...
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By Swissmaster Cheese Sun Jun 27, 2004 10:10 pm
overrated....Paul was cool, CHeck your head is still my all time favorite..of course License is a classic, but here, they're just slumming..

By elmacaco Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:30 am
mike D used to use the 60, but in a recent interview mike d said he has 2 mpc 2000 collecting dust.

My friend who used to use reason more than I ever did recognized a Dr. Rex preset in one song. I picked some preset snares, You'd think they'd process this stuff so it doesn't sound so blah.
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By DJAndreas Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:50 am
elmacaco wrote:mike D used to use the 60, but in a recent interview mike d said he has 2 mpc 2000 collecting dust.

My friend who used to use reason more than I ever did recognized a Dr. Rex preset in one song. I picked some preset snares, You'd think they'd process this stuff so it doesn't sound so blah.


wow, im feelin the album big time. I love that open letter song to new york. They actually sampled that riff from a punk band.

By arctec Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:02 am
"recognized a Dr. Rex preset in one song. I picked some preset snares, You'd think they'd process this stuff so it doesn't sound so blah. "

ya know, I heard a similar thing when listening to a Roni Size album some time ago, wasnt a reason sound, but an absynth preset on the original synth before it become an NI product. It was one of the first pre sets. He went down big time in my estimations after I heard that. All too many artists it seems now rely on reason and it's pre sounds. For me, it's not just it's sound set though, cos of course you can load in your own samps. and stuff, but take the lack lustre delay for eg. The number of tunes I've heard with either lazy fills just utilizing the dely, or even whole beats constructed using it Argh!. That used to be a cool effect, but it's been destroyed now by over use and lazy programming. I also can't stand the swing of the thing. I'm not saying that MPC is better or worse, by when I hear a track/beat done in reason it makes me wanna pull my hair out, not dance my arse off. Reason = makes you lazy

Rant over.

By elmacaco Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:25 am
Damn I gotta get to sweeden! That's close to how I feel, but s hit, programming soft synths is like pulling teeth compared to real analog, so I can't blame size on that s hit, but still it does kinda suc k.

By arctec Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:12 am
Dont forget that Propellerheads who make Reason are in Sweden. End elab, who make many of their samples are also in Sweden.

On the plus side, so are Elektron, who make the Machine Drum and the SID chip thingy. But they're over priced.

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By Cheech Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:26 am
dubmunkey wrote:http://www.theregister.com/2004/06/23/beastie_boy_cd_virus/

this is bad....

greg


That is not nice.. Has anyone confirmed this yet?
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By DSTRUCT Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:22 pm
DJAndreas wrote:I love that open letter song to new york.


i second that opinion. thats a banger right there. I love that beat