MPC5000 reviews, bug reports and fellow user support on the most recent standalone, hardware MPC from Akai
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By Jaytim3 Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:58 pm
I was actually searching for it in google and all i could find was to this site:P
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By NorthernElite Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:53 am
Jaytim3 wrote:I was actually searching for it in google and all i could find was to this site:P


Lol....Sorry My Brutha - just having some fun...lol :mrgreen:

you can go over to the MPC1000 thread to see how this started...lol

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I'm not sure how to post the direct link?

I'll stop posting any more on this thread as I don't want to double post.

Peace - Elite
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By Askia Shaheed Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:44 am
NorthernElite wrote:
Jaytim3 wrote:The one who made it needs more photoshopp skills:P


lol. caught you all lookin though....lol :mrgreen:

It was only a quick 10 minute mock-up for fun and to provoke some debate.

I still don't think that there's been a really classic keyboard sampler since back to the E-mu Emulator days.

I'd really like to see a proper dedicated keyboard sampler and if Akai made one of these - I'd buy it.

Peace - Elite


I was hoping Roland would continue to make improvements to the samplers in their keyboards but they have taken a step back with the Fantom G.
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By NorthernElite Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:19 pm
Askia Shaheed wrote:
NorthernElite wrote:
Jaytim3 wrote:The one who made it needs more photoshopp skills:P


lol. caught you all lookin though....lol :mrgreen:

It was only a quick 10 minute mock-up for fun and to provoke some debate.

I still don't think that there's been a really classic keyboard sampler since back to the E-mu Emulator days.

I'd really like to see a proper dedicated keyboard sampler and if Akai made one of these - I'd buy it.

Peace - Elite


I was hoping Roland would continue to make improvements to the samplers in their keyboards but they have taken a step back with the Fantom G.


Yep - agreed! I owned the Fantom X for a year and thought it was pretty ok, but I had high hopes for the Fantom G - Once I got a chance to demo it I was floored by two things - 1) how great is that screen? wow! 2) The general lack of OS progress, especially on the sampling side of things.

It had been my intention to upgrade to the Fantom G, but in the end I grabbed the Motif XS. The sampler functionality on that is also not what I'd hoped, but the sounds and workflow suited my style better.

I've not been following the Rolandclan forum for a while, are there any interesting OS updates on the way for the Fantom G -Sometimes (as you know) it can take them a few updates to get the most out of the machines. Just wondered if you think Roland will eventually get on their game and fix it?
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By Askia Shaheed Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:04 am
I visited the Fantom G forum yesterday after staying away from it for about a month. Many of its users are still angry that Roland hasn't released an OS update.

Since it is still a new machine, I anticpate Roland putting out an OS update. My best guess is by the time Namm rolls around. The main thing I want is for Roland to improve the sampling features. When I mentioned this in the MV-Forum, Mike Acosta (Roland Product Specialist) basically said I should get an MV if I cared that much about sampling. I reminded him that the Fantom G was advertisted as having a "full fledge sampler" and "rivals dedicated samplers". This is simply not the case.
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By NorthernElite Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:46 pm
Askia Shaheed wrote:I visited the Fantom G forum yesterday after staying away from it for about a month. Many of its users are still angry that Roland hasn't released an OS update.

Since it is still a new machine, I anticpate Roland putting out an OS update. My best guess is by the time Namm rolls around. The main thing I want is for Roland to improve the sampling features. When I mentioned this in the MV-Forum, Mike Acosta (Roland Product Specialist) basically said I should get an MV if I cared that much about sampling. I reminded him that the Fantom G was advertisted as having a "full fledge sampler" and "rivals dedicated samplers". This is simply not the case.


I've just been across at the Roland forum for a quick look..lol those Fantom G owners are not too happy are they - wow!

I don't agree with Mike's response to you that you should buy an MV - what kind of BS is that; they're marketing the Fantom G as having fully fledged sampling functionality, but it doesn't look so hot to me! Roland need to quit avoiding the issue and get a new and MUCH improved OS out for the Fantom G - simple as that.

To change the subject back to the MPC5000 again...

I've moved over to the 'Dark' side....

I'm getting a new MPC5000 and 128mb RAM Expansion delivered tomorrow - I decided to take a look at this product more closely and see if I can learn to like it?!? (the truth is, I was bored and wanted a new toy to play with..lol)

I've already read through the known bugs a couple of times - Yikes!!!

I'll be spending a little more time on the 5000 threads now and hopefully with the help of you guys, I'll be able to get to grips with it and make it work within my setup.

I know I've already said in other posts that I expected more from Akai concerning the spec for this flagship MPC, but I'm gonna give it a try and then make a judgement. Perhaps I may even like it.

I'm really looking forward to getting my hands dirty on that internal synth and I'll spend the weekend working through the manual.

I hope I don't regret getting rid of my MPC2500 !?!

Thought I'd let you know that I've joined the MPC5K family...lol

Peace - Elite
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By Askia Shaheed Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:06 am
NorthernElite, welcome to the family.

I can't really hate on Mike Acosta as he is trying to make a living like everybody else, but he did try to insult my intelligence. I believe Roland will come around and eventually update the Fantom and release more of those $400 ARX cards. :shock: The Roland Forum pretty much mimics this one in terms of how people feel about these specific products. But there is a big difference though. The Roland Forum is filled with a bunch of actual Fantom G users that complain about the product they own. This isn't the case here where most of the people that complain about the 5K don't actually own the machine. I have used MPCs for over a decade. And until recently, I was an MPC 2500 user w/ the JJ OS2 installed. I can't see why anyone that loves MPCs would hate this product. Overall, it is a solid machine. It has everything you need to make music with. If you find that it doesn't..simply discuss it in the feature request threads.
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By NorthernElite Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:06 pm
Askia Shaheed wrote:NorthernElite, welcome to the family.

I can't really hate on Mike Acosta as he is trying to make a living like everybody else, but he did try to insult my intelligence. I believe Roland will come around and eventually update the Fantom and release more of those $400 ARX cards. :shock: The Roland Forum pretty much mimics this one in terms of how people feel about these specific products. But there is a big difference though. The Roland Forum is filled with a bunch of actual Fantom G users that complain about the product they own. This isn't the case here where most of the people that complain about the 5K don't actually own the machine. I have used MPCs for over a decade. And until recently, I was an MPC 2500 user w/ the JJ OS2 installed. I can't see why anyone that loves MPCs would hate this product. Overall, it is a solid machine. It has everything you need to make music with. If you find that it doesn't..simply discuss it in the feature request threads.


I hear ya! I been making music from way back to the days of when the E-mu Emulator II was released and I've owned at one time or another most of the flagship workstations along the way. But I must admit I've only just caught the MPC bug during the last year and have progressed from 1000,2500 and now the 5K.

I'll hold my arms in the air and admit that I've been guilty of making a few negative comments on the 5K's spec but most of it is only in jest, because I didn't actually own it - I do understand how that may wind up actual 5K owners though.

Anyways, I thought I'd now take the 5K for a spin round the block and road test it myself - so now that I actually have my hands on one, I'll be sure to feedback to these forums 'constructive' feedback and I'm sure I'll get a few tips and tricks from you guys that have jumped onto the 5K right from launch :mrgreen:

Gotta say this though, I'm really impressed by this forum and even though I've been a member for a relatively short space of time - I've learned so much from reading everyone's tips/tricks/feedback etc. and I just wanted to express my thanks to the regular faces who pitch in with the tough questions as well as everyone who participates in general - It's all good!!!

Here's a couple a pics of my new toy..lol : -


The new MPC5K sitting next to Motif XS

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That screen is pretty nice

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Peace - Elite
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By Askia Shaheed Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:34 am
^^^
Nice pics. I have mine is a similar position sitting next to my Fantom G. But I have to take a commerical break and make another gripe about my Fantom G.

As a consumer and member of several forums, I have always been forthcoming about what I like and dislike about certain products. This includes products I own like the MPC-line. The Fantom Gs OS is still incomplete. Today I discovered another annoying issue. The Fantom G's manual states that songs can be saved as Standard Midi Files, which is a function that most or all MIDI sequencers have. But not the Fantom G. I have songs created entirely with the Fantom G. I wanted to save them as a Standard Midi File to load into my 5k for further editing and music composition but this isn't possible...yet Roland has advertised this :x

Back to the MPC 5K....
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By NorthernElite Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:31 am
Askia Shaheed wrote:^^^
Nice pics. I have mine is a similar position sitting next to my Fantom G. But I have to take a commerical break and make another gripe about my Fantom G.

As a consumer and member of several forums, I have always been forthcoming about what I like and dislike about certain products. This includes products I own like the MPC-line. The Fantom Gs OS is still incomplete. Today I discovered another annoying issue. The Fantom G's manual states that songs can be saved as Standard Midi Files, which is a function that most or all MIDI sequencers have. But not the Fantom G. I have songs created entirely with the Fantom G. I wanted to save them as a Standard Midi File to load into my 5k for further editing and music composition but this isn't possible...yet Roland has advertised this :x

Back to the MPC 5K....


Find it hard to believe that the Fantom G doesn't support that as a 'standard' MIDI feature - that ones' a biggie.

You sometimes wonder who these companies have got doing their OS specification design/testing - sometimes it's beyond belief how they update a product to a new 'improved' model then drop key features that were available on previous models, specifically the Fantom X which could perform standard MIDI files import/export.

I know that they've revamped the onboard sequencer on the Fantom G but you'd really assume that this would be a 'must have' feature for working on MIDI tracks between different equipment.

What can I say except 'THAT SUCKS!!!' - Roland need to step up their sh;t !!!

But I suppose you could always trade it in for an MV....lol

Anyway... as you say.... back to the MPC5K

Ok, I have to admit, first impressions of the 5K are actually good, I've been messing with this VA synth and without reading too much of the manual I've already started to get some really impressive results - At some point soon we perhaps should think about starting a new thread on here, just to share and compare our home-made 5K synth presets, it would be neat to see what others are managing to achieve.

For me this is a really nice feature, even though I have ample dedicated hardware/software synths. I do like the instant gratification of building a beat and then without moving away from the 5K, layering a nice ARP'd analog baseline that syncs exactly to my BPM and you can tweak in real-time right from the Qlinks - I was just playing for hours last night with that feature alone.

Sound quality also is good, not sure if it's the new effects, but it's sounding pretty sweet through my JBLs.

Today, I'm gonna rebuild my sample library which I'd backed-up from my 2500 onto the 5K - Not sure how long 30gb will take over USB....lol

Oh I almost forgot to mention my CD issue - As reference for others - On my MPC2500 I was using a 3rd party TEAC drive with the pin-removal fix (so not the original Akai CD/DVD). That worked great on the 2500

When I put that same drive into the 5K it didn't recognise it, so I'm wondering if the 5K is using some other pin config which is slightly different between the two models (or perhaps some different master/slave setup between CD/DVD and HDD?)- Either that or there could be a hardware issue on my 5K, but it's brand new so I'm covered anyway. I thought it would just work as it was fine on the 2500 though.

Just wondered if any other 5K owners with the CD/DVD have used a 3rd Party drive, or if everyone's using the official Akai product?

I'm not gonna mess with it though - I've taken the drive back out and I'm just gonna go ahead and buy the Akai drive, I figure that if it's worth investing in the flagship MPC, then it's probably best to get the Akai accesories for full compatibility.

Peace - Elite
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By Askia Shaheed Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:50 am
I stuck with Akai memory and CD drive for my previously owned 2500 and the 5000. The 2500 and the 5000 uses the same Akai CD drive but the memory modules are different. There could possibly be some other hardware differences that make your CD drive Mod unusable on the 5000....but I am far from a subject matter expert.
By 4dahaterz Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:05 pm
NorthernElite wrote: At some point soon we perhaps should think about starting a new thread on here, just to share and compare our home-made 5K synth presets, it would be neat to see what others are managing to achieve.


Already started... no offers yet: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=98373
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By NorthernElite Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:21 pm
4dahaterz wrote:
NorthernElite wrote: At some point soon we perhaps should think about starting a new thread on here, just to share and compare our home-made 5K synth presets, it would be neat to see what others are managing to achieve.


Already started... no offers yet: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=98373


Nice! - I'll post some soon when I get fully to grips with that Synth.