Why should I choose the MPC 5000 over the Roland MV8800

Askia Shaheed wrote:

I enjoy the MPC community much more!!! You can speak the truth good or bad here.
The mods on MV Nation are dumb asses that will flame you if you say 1 bad thing about the MV.

I agree with you 100%. If this forum was similar to the MV Nation, this thread wouldn't even exist. I believe Roland must be paying those guys. In defense of Roland, I sent them an email twice recently about issues with my Fantom G. They replied back to me promptly.

Well perhaps they won't respond to me because I called them out on the WMP issue on MVNation.
Mike Acosta (an employee) said it is a known issue & that I should do a search. He really meant RTFM.
Thing is... there is no mention in the manual of the issue & when your HDD goes blank (or whatever it does do)
you don't know it is a "WMP issue", so a "WMP issue" search isn't really 1st thing that comes to mind.
I still troll the forum every now & then there & you see somebody ask that WMP ? all the time.
It gets handled ugly there allot.
Instead of alienating a new potential great member they could make a sticky saying "Hard Drive Erasing??"
It does get asked there once a week I'd say.
My point is not to not rehash this tired issue, but the fact my support ?'s don't get answered could be due to the fact I spoke up & took a stand against Roland on MVN & here.
I feel they have to be some type of Roland sponsored forum as well.

The MV is great though, my only real complaint is the support I've gotten.
My other complaints are more wishes than actual gripes.

I don t even own an MV8800 but i know this WMP issue ...that s a f*ucking bad bug !

I agree they definitly should sticky it in the forum but i guess they just don t cause it would scare potential buyers.

well i had the mv 8800 its a bad as beast if u know how to use it...


i sold it ....i need something more "mobile" & "handy"...i ended with the 2500!!!
i luv the mv...it has everything that u need in one box!!!
only thing that i wasn t feeling was the filters....but some people luv them...
the good thing about the mv is that u can use it cubase like or "just " like a groovebox!!

i also played the mpc 5000 in the store and it was realy fun!!!


its hard to decide between both!!!

The WMP issue is pretty well documented over at MVN. In fact it was users that discovered it. Closing WMP during a USB solves the problem. Turning off Auto-Syn in WMP also takes care of it. I do agree that it should be in the manual.

e-smile-z wrote:well i had the mv 8800 its a bad as beast if u know how to use it...


i sold it ....i need something more "mobile" & "handy"...i ended with the 2500!!!
i luv the mv...it has everything that u need in one box!!!
only thing that i wasn t feeling was the filters....but some people luv them...
the good thing about the mv is that u can use it cubase like or "just " like a groovebox!!

i also played the mpc 5000 in the store and it was realy fun!!!


its hard to decide between both!!!

Ez i didnt know you sold your MV!? Good for you...

diegoeskryptic wrote:

e-smile-z wrote:well i had the mv 8800 its a bad as beast if u know how to use it...


i sold it ....i need something more "mobile" & "handy"...i ended with the 2500!!!
i luv the mv...it has everything that u need in one box!!!
only thing that i wasn t feeling was the filters....but some people luv them...
the good thing about the mv is that u can use it cubase like or "just " like a groovebox!!

i also played the mpc 5000 in the store and it was realy fun!!!


its hard to decide between both!!!

Ez i didnt know you sold your MV!? Good for you...

Dammmmmn Digi, you hatin the MV like that?

"Given the fact that most MPC compositions are done within 96PPQN the notion of 996PPQN is a non-issue and cosmetic at best.

I could never understand why people want 996ppqn on the MPC. I haven't heard a single producer who makes music that requires this. Boom Bap type beats don't need 996ppqn. Most people praise vintage equipment for it's analog/dirty sound, and say new drum machines sound too clean, but who makes dirty music at 996ppqn??
Unless your making really detailed music (StarWars type film scores), this is a feature that people can safely take off the wish list.

I've given up with Roland products after many years of sticking with them!

Besides, certain online stores are are displaying the MV8800 as 'discontinued'.

Does Roland perhaps have a new model on the way? Not that I care, the MPC5K does everything I need and a whole lot more.

I'm glad I bought the 5K, it's a 'SLEEPING GIANT'

roxstar wrote:"Given the fact that most MPC compositions are done within 96PPQN the notion of 996PPQN is a non-issue and cosmetic at best.

I could never understand why people want 996ppqn on the MPC. I haven't heard a single producer who makes music that requires this. Boom Bap type beats don't need 996ppqn. Most people praise vintage equipment for it's analog/dirty sound, and say new drum machines sound too clean, but who makes dirty music at 996ppqn??
Unless your making really detailed music (StarWars type film scores), this is a feature that people can safely take off the wish list.

I speculate everyone doesn't make dity music. Besides, software sequencers have this...and even higher I believe. And this is not a wish...the MPC 4000 and 5000 both have 960 ppqn so the sequencers can capture MIDI recordings as accurately as possible..

Nobody has yet to produce an example of anything in Hip-hop that makes use of 960PPQN. All classic MPC works can and have been done well under 96PPQN> Even when it's not dirty.

Unless you're ripping faster and more expressive than Rudess or Michaelson-960PPQN is cosmetic. Like the man stated , your music better be pretty damn complex to warrant such a high count.

960ppqn IS overkill but 480ppq is noticeable compared to 96. The older MPCs can get away with the lower resolution because the quantize puts its own "MPC feel" to it so it doesn't sound so stiff. If you are not quantizing or using a lower strength % then a higher resolution like 480ppq will make a difference in capturing the timing of your playing in more detail. My point was that the MV timing was so sloppy at 480 that it held no advantage. Because the quantize strength adjust is near useless at 120ppq, it is difficult to get a good swing out of the MV like you easily can with an MPC

I can respect your opinion on the swing/shuffle thing. It's matter of preference I guess. I tend to use it sparingly even back when I using the 4000. In any case I feel where your coming from.

NorthernElite wrote:I've given up with Roland products after many years of sticking with them!

Besides, certain online stores are are displaying the MV8800 as 'discontinued'.

Does Roland perhaps have a new model on the way? Not that I care, the MPC5K does everything I need and a whole lot more.

I'm glad I bought the 5K, it's a 'SLEEPING GIANT'

I think Roland may in fact release another workstation. My guess is that they will make a hybrid of the MV and Fantom...at least if they were smart.

yes i sold it...
i can t hate on the mv 8800 cause its a topnotch maschien!!!but i need something more portable

i didn t like the 1000.... so i bought a 2500...

Askia Shaheed wrote:

NorthernElite wrote:I've given up with Roland products after many years of sticking with them!

Besides, certain online stores are are displaying the MV8800 as 'discontinued'.

Does Roland perhaps have a new model on the way? Not that I care, the MPC5K does everything I need and a whole lot more.

I'm glad I bought the 5K, it's a 'SLEEPING GIANT'

I think Roland may in fact release another workstation. My guess is that they will make a hybrid of the MV and Fantom...at least if they were smart.

With the technology that Roland has already developed for both the MV and Fantom X/G, I'll bet they could incorporate that into a great Hybrid product. But it makes far too much sense, so it'll probably never happen