Diggin a waste of cash

like just got this dope les mccan neva found it in the shop but a friend got this off a dealer been looking around neva found it when im out my boy got it for 20 but downloading i get to appreciate the good music and also have access to sounds to sample.

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Damn! i dig! But u never feel its a waste! I love music that much My love is Hip Hop! It's all about the ear. And the ability to make it into something. Yo should be able to take some Polka and squeeze some shit out of it. No doubt it takes a little open mind a little weed LOL but Hip Hop was built off of something from nothing. I made this joint called "Springfield" using some cheezie ass Bing Crosby.

Check it out.
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My collection was wack at first but i hit up Trift stores and old people at church that have records collecting dust. Got alot free that way. I got real lucky a record store was closing down and they just gave away shit for free. I got like 100 records for free
cuz the were closing for good the next day.

Starrskee1980 wrote:My collection was wack at first but i hit up Trift stores and old people at church that have records collecting dust. Got alot free that way. I got real lucky a record store was closing down and they just gave away **** for free. I got like 100 records for free
cuz the were closing for good the next day.

I feel ya.

how do u approach people at church, there is a church near my house LOL i wanna try.

ps - SPRING FIELD is a dope as trak. D-O-P-E!!!!

Wat sort of sample is the little faint background noise? (sounds maybe like some faint little bells?) that is a nice touch.

"man u got beats! just heard ur page...nice work man.
I also read ur article about no one wanting to pay for beats, from your experience what do u think is a realistic asking price for a beat that people are actually willing to pay on myspace? (my beats are dope so the quality is there, im just worried no one is willing to pay a decent price on myspace)"

Thanks D! Production is so oversaturated, people have resorted to not only giving away beats, but giving away entire albums; we just call them mix-tapes and podcasts! It's hard to sell a cd for $10 on the streets when the average consumer can download and burn free new material everyday. If it sucks, it cost them a blank cd.
But how much to charge is a good question, but the answer lies in your customers. Anyone that can respect the music will pay for it, but most consumers can't separate the good from bad. If you put in some serious work, they wouldn't recognize it. Mc Lil Rikki (who spent 5 minutes on a beat) would get praised from the community..it happens all the time.
The answer lies in surrounding yourself with the right people. People with connections. Don't sell yourself short for a few or no bucks. If you want $100 or $100,000 for a beat, demand it. Get in the right circles that CAN afford to drop a couple dollars (don't charge a broke dude $1000 for a track haha).
I ask for $400 on my page, and I've sold a few this year, but it's a price that's high enough to keep the freeloaders away, and it's not too high that a serious MC wouldn't want to pay, and make sure you get future residuals if an album really does sell. Giving away cheap music does not benefit the producer at all. You need to make the price high enough that the MC will want to recoup/profit later (actually putting out/selling a cd and not rolling weed on the cd case.) Buying beats is a business investment. People purchase them because they PLAN to make a PROFIT later. Some people have no business purchasing beats because they KNOW they won't EVER make a profit. Stay away from the latter.

roxstar wrote:I ask for $400 on my page, and I've sold a few this year, but it's a price that's high enough to keep the freeloaders away, and it's not too high that a serious MC wouldn't want to pay,

That statement says it all lol, thats what i thought, you gotta find mc's that are serious and respect it enough to see it as an investment and worth the money, and take pride in their music to only rap on good beats. Cos i had the gut feeling i could spend all day on a beat and many people won't want to pay what its worth. Thanks for the insight.

and just to re-iterate that motown soul beat is str8 up nasty lol i wanna make some ish like that, need to put in some work and improve my sampling techniques and choices!

Donlong wrote:

Starrskee1980 wrote:My collection was wack at first but i hit up Trift stores and old people at church that have records collecting dust. Got alot free that way. I got real lucky a record store was closing down and they just gave away **** for free. I got like 100 records for free
cuz the were closing for good the next day.

I feel ya.

how do u approach people at church, there is a church near my house LOL i wanna try.

ps - SPRING FIELD is a dope as trak. D-O-P-E!!!!

Wat sort of sample is the little faint background noise? (sounds maybe like some faint little bells?) that is a nice touch.

Thanks Man!
But yea My folks are heavy into church so i put up a cheap lil flyer on the bulletin. Try any where, older people at work. Bring it up in small talk. Most times i just hit tag sales. ANYTHING! some people are sometimes just tring to get rid of stuff. eBAY IS DOPE TOO. i caught some dope Herbie HAncock in good condition for $.99 a little change for shipping. Here and there man it takes time to build your shit. My man that MC's hit me off with a crate of nice stuff his mom was about to trash. Ask everyone you know.

"and just to re-iterate that motown soul beat is str8 up nasty lol i wanna make some ish like that"

Would you believe that beat is almost 7 years old? I knew after I made it I wasn't going to top it for a while! The drums were processed on the Emax-1, right after I bought it on ebay.

roxstar wrote:"and just to re-iterate that motown soul beat is str8 up nasty lol i wanna make some ish like that"

Would you believe that beat is almost 7 years old? I knew after I made it I wasn't going to top it for a while! The drums were processed on the Emax-1, right after I bought it on ebay.

lol good work. yeah when u drop a bomb like that u know its gonna take a while to outdo it.

My two cents get with old school DJs and listen to the classics cuz they have some shit for ya ass. Every great hip hop producer seems to had help with an uncle, parent or friend introducing them to a monster collection too at the beginning of the game. Diggin in the Crates drops those gems always to those that peep it out.

simple fact: D.I.T.C.=Paying dues.
Sampling, whether from digital recordings (tv, dvds, etc.) or from vinyl, is ALL THE SAME. The versatility of the most current software allows for the degradation of sound quality in some format. With an sp-404, there is a vinyl effect that imitates the clicks and pops of wax. By manipulating a digital sample in this manner, the arguement that vinyl "sounds better" becomes irrelevant. The idea being that when you dig for new samples, you throw them into your mp, asr, sp, etc., and chop them up into something different. In the end, you are putting in work on your sampler, morphing sampled audio recordings into original material. When a beat bangs out over your monitors and heads nod, who really cares about the source material!?




Someone who loves music and has limited production skills is NOT going to ask you what record the horn sample you laced on the bridge before the first chorus is from. Stop overanalyzing and breaking everything down by what is dictated to you in your hip hop handbooks and start enjoying the music again. Its because of the elitist attitudes alot of you heads walk around with thats got dudes really believing that "hip hop is dead."

Personally I think you can use every single record you buy. I've just used things off random records such as percussion, even things that are less than a second, so even if you do buy rubbish its still usable.

Whoever wrote and drew that probably doesn't know much about it, I don't get annoyed when I find a shiiiit record, yerr it may be a waste of money, but it's enjoyable getting back a record looking at the cover art, some of them usually have stories on the back of how they came about, and then listening to the entire thing to see whats there.

It's a hobby, its creative, I'd be bored without digging and making beats...if we're happy spending money, i just don't understand how anyone can look at it negatively.

(on a side note, its probably some software producer who drew it, not that i have a problem with software like)

yo i'm loving this thread right now. everyone dropping some jewels. rox, you said something i've been feeling for some time now - we've already made it.

we all think, "one day, we're gonna make it" we have actually already "made it!" We make music all the time. it's time to improve YOU. How can I make me better is the question we all need to ask ourselves. How can I take me to that next level?

i'm pursuing this concept thru my music and my life every second of every day! my true goal (in life) is to actually intertwine the two; my music and my life. so i can no longer differentiate the "music" from "real life". know what i'm saying? my assumption is that i'll blow up in the process, but that's a whole nother topic

everyone has htere own take i paid dues over the period of 6 years and learned alot but i also wasted money cos as u learn u by shit that u think would be good and truns out to be wack that part of the game granted.

however im now at a stage where im unwilling to waste large amounts of time in record stores going thru old records and spending money on this hobby of music production.

i use hard ware and software i think i have enuff sounds to work with and get new insipration online finding records that i could not afford to buy if i saw them in the shop.

i used to think u had to use only records but now ive dropped them limitations and will use sounds from wherever and flip into something else

jpeg wrote:however im now at a stage where im unwilling to waste large amounts of time in record stores going thru old records and spending money on this hobby of music production.

i think is the key to the whole issue, it depends on what stage and mindset u are in.

when u are 20 the thought of digging thru a record store may be the most exciting thing, but later on u may not care for that anymore.

dats it when i was early 20's no mortgage that kinda appealed to me but i got more bills and less free time so i aint really interested and on-line im getting better shit then i could get while i was out digging.

every now an again i might check a record shop if im out of town like 2 or 3 times in a year but now mostly on line or alternative sound sources like tv videos, dvds, movie clips that i found online.

i got my workflow to the point where i spend less time looking for stuff to sample but still output more beats.