Blue Haze wrote:NguoiDuc wrote:NorthernElite wrote:I know that will leave a bitter taste for some 4K owners, but the HD Recording functionality is 'actually' there in the 5K.
IMO this HD recording function shouldn't leave a bitter taste for anyone cause it's just some half-hearted ****! You can record your stuff. You can adjust gain, normalize and do fades. You can cut, copy and add silence! That's it!!! Okay, at least you can route your tracks to the internal fx!
It's basic. You will get really basic recordings done with that. So if you wanna do some vocals that might work! But to be honest, why does Akai have to chase the MV with it's ridiculous RAM-recording??? Why don't they concentrate on their core business which is sampling? Thank god I have an S 5000 for keygroups otherwise I would have had to think hard and get a 4k instead. Anyway, HD-recording the MPC is a more comfortable version of reel-to-reel recording.
Today you get some sort of DAW with every ugly 70$ interface or you use Reaper. Everything will be a better option than recording into your MPC. I use an Akai DPS 16 for philosophy reasons. Everyone to his own!
Akai, please use your precious developing time for improving the sample engine and stop implementing toy features like Roland and don't even do it properly!!!
Just my 2 cents!
P.S.: People just stop fussin about non-sense! 4k users just tolerate other people not choosing your king of kings. 5k owner's accept, that the 4k is a much - and I mean MUCH - more capable machine concerning sampling, sequencing. And no VA-synth or HD-nonsense or Q-Links will make it an inferior machine to all other MPCs. That's my honest opinion as a PROUD 5k owner! Amen! 
Points taken we are all mpc owners regardless of the model it is the Man on the unit that counts to make great music. A quick remix or direct vocal recording is fine too for the road or test mix. Back in the day the stereo of a mixer was always running into a cassete desk. If you have the options it is a plus in a basic studio. But I do believe most of us have a pretty serious setup on the digital routing. Just curious though to use it.
And I suppose the previous few posts illustrate that we each have an opinion of what we're after from our equipment (even amongst us 5k owners) - I don't doubt that the 4K is a very sophisticated sampler, but that fact alone was also instrumental in the 4K being labeled as the 'runt' of the MPC litter. As that brought some added complexity from a workflow perspective. I'm seriously not gonna argue the 5K over any other piece of gear as that's 'personal' choice. But I do get a little tired of reading posts by other MPC users here on the 5K threads about how us 5K owners were suckered into a purchase or can't seem to make an educated judgement on what equipment we use to make music. I say use 'whatever' works for you as long as your beats are kickin'!
Now back onto the subject - don't forget that the OS for the 5K is still very young and IMO the features and functionality will grow as Akai release further OS uplifts. That's what I honestly believe. Akai will get it right with the 5K.
I think the HD recording functionality is really useful and in specific scenarios, such as pointed out by BH, it could be a really good way of recording and mixing down a song idea within a single box. I'm not sure it was actually designed to be an 'out an out' DAW replacement, in fact I'm sure it wasn't. But if you've got a need to throw down some long sample tracks, such as vocals, guitar or whatever, it's really cool that you can record up to 8 HD tracks without affecting the 5K's remaining RAM You're limited only by Hard Drive size - That's pretty cool.
Then you've got a seperate mixing section for HD tracks where you can adjust level, FX send, Pan etc etc. and then mixdown to a two track mix for burning to CD etc or export individual audio stems into your DAW up to 24bit. Use the Q-links for adjusting the mix properties in real time and record those changes as mix automation. Now if you ask me - that's pretty cool.
I think Akai got it spot on with the 5K - good functionality with switch on and go 'ease-of-use' I like that and think they've moved back to their roots i.e. what initially made the MPC famous.
The VA synth - call me strange, but I love that to. See all of these things can be actually used to make music. Notice how I said 'Make Music' that's what we're talking about here right?
As opposed to talkin' bout comparing spec sheets.
That goes back to what you said BH - in most cases it's the man not the machine (but the machine sure helps). Let's all move beyond 'I can p;ss up the wall further than you' - That's school yard stuff!
