Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
By blaster18 Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:14 am
Hi, I am wondering is there a way to record the muted and unmuted parts of your song without the PC software ?

I got jj0s2 and really dont want to use any computer software because I have a crappy sound card. I can see that when you hit the mute and unmute it goes into the stepedit... There must be a reason to this. I hope it can do what i want !

Plz tell me, can it do this? and if so then how ?
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By NearTao Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:08 pm
I'll add that if you want to sequence this, you cannot sequence mute on/off longer than the number of bars for your sequence. So you won't be (directly) able to make a few tracks and then just use mutes to record a full song.

Also it only mutes the note events, not the actual audio. You probably know this, but just a reminder.
By blaster18 Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:08 pm
Rozzer thank you for the instructions to use mute, I didn't even know. I am one step ahead. Now the question is how can I use it to make a full song. There has got to be a way. What if I was to make a sequence super long like copy and paste the same bars over and over. Can I make a song like that, using Mute on off like 15 times ?

Also, "NearTao", what do you mean it only mutes the note events not the actual audio...? I dunno this, Im a newb bro.

Im looking for the best way to do this mute thing, don't wanna develop no dumb ass way when there is probably a way that is so much more convenient through the mpc. PLus Im against software bros.

NearTao wrote: So you won't be (directly) able to make a few tracks and then just use mutes to record a full song.

Also it only mutes the note events, not the actual audio. You probably know this, but just a reminder.
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By NearTao Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:04 pm
blaster18 wrote:Also, "NearTao", what do you mean it only mutes the note events not the actual audio...? I dunno this, Im a newb bro.

Im looking for the best way to do this mute thing, don't wanna develop no dumb ass way when there is probably a way that is so much more convenient through the mpc. PLus Im against software bros.


When you record in the sequencer on the MPC you are only recording an event, like you hit a pad or move a slider. You are not recording the actual sound in the sequencer. So if you have a sample that has a long play time, like a cymbal crash then in track mute, if you mute before the cymbal crash plays it won't play. If however you mute a little after the cymbal crash plays then your mute won't mute the cymbal crash because the MIDI event has already occurred.

I'm not sure I can give you a great work flow for the mute thing, but there are two ways that strike me as valid for what you want to do, but the first isn't reproducible.

1) You could work as is and use your track mutes and record your audio out to a computer, tape recorder or whatever you could end up with a pretty awesome live feel to it. This however isn't something you could easily go back to and make adjustments to later if you needed to tweak the volume of your bass or drums or whatever.

2) This is what a lot of people on here do, learn how to copy/duplicate your sequence (window -> copy) to another sequence. Do this for each variation that you need, and then you can string your sequences together in song mode. You'll lose that live feel, but it is 100% reproducible and easy to edit/tweak parts of the performance as necessary.

I'll end with what you had mentioned...
3) You could make your sequence very very long and then copy and paste your bars as needed. This will allow you to mute/unmute as needed for each part of your track and get that live/reproducible feel. The concern I have with doing this myself all the time is that it makes it much harder to go back and add or remove a section of the song. You'll end up doing a lot of copy/pasting and I haven't found this to be terribly efficient to do when you have more than one or two tracks. While fun and reproducible (and perhaps a decent middle ground to #2), you'll be limiting yourself to how much you can edit your song later without having to redo the entire performance from scratch.
By mister_sosa74 Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:42 am
its good to use both methods as the mpc uses the line patterns to show you the events and that line is basically what you will be muting..
By Sander Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:01 pm
A volume track mute would be the bomb. That would give you the same live flexibility as working with midi tracks.