Leaving my 1k for an MV8000. Need counseling.

So as much as I run my mouth in this forum, it looks like my 1k is on its way out for a roland mv8000. I just happened across a local price that was too good to pass up and will probably make a move on it soon.
Anyone want to tell me the error of my ways? What I should expect? What is gonna disappoint me? Just looking for ideas. And if anyone wants to buy a loaded 1k with loads of samples, new pads, os2, etc. then check out my post in the marketplace forum. Christ, I feel like I'm breaking up with my girlfriend about this.... (you know the one that's small on features and big on heart )

adios (maybe for good?)

Yo don't do it!!!

(Is that what you wanna hear?)

But honestly, I wouldn't do it. The MV specs are killer on paper. When using one in real life, I wasn't digging the "computer-y" vibe of it. The thing reminded me of an old Compaq booting up!

The real reason to stick with the MPC1K though, is the form factor! You have to love how serious it is for the size.

elevated wrote:(Is that what you wanna hear?)

heheh not exactly. and the computer vibe of the mv turns me off too.

the thing for me is for about an even trade price-wise an i can burn cds, ditch a few outboard effects processors, and track audio w/o using other outboard gear (which sucks, b/c i love nothing more than a massive wad of cables on my desk [for real!]). i'm not touching a computer with a ten foot pole for music so this seems like a decent compromise since i really need to turn some gear into cash... might hang on to the mpc and see if i can stretch things, but who knows. i still have an sp505 to give me that quick flow feel....

i just picked up an mv8000.

what exactly is it that makes you want to make a move on the mv, minus the vga output and minus the audiotrack recording or maybe a better way to phrase it would be what about the sequencing, sampling, chopping, and stuff like that is better on the mv?

FredFrank wrote:what exactly is it that makes you want to make a move on the mv, minus the vga output and minus the audiotrack recording or maybe a better way to phrase it would be what about the sequencing, sampling, chopping, and stuff like that is better on the mv?

To answer your question the sequencing is different, can't say better but different. Sampling and choping can be a little easier on the MV (specially when you sample from a CD), also the Center Canceler feature that lets you take vocals off of the sample. Taking a pattern that you record and assigning it to a pad for playback control in a song is another cool feature. VGA can be a plus and a curse when you consider it helps you navigate the controls and effects faster but since you have no scrolling cursor and there's a latency in when the data shows on the screen, you have to rely on your ears and the metronome more than looking at the screen.

I have a MV8800, MPC4000, and MPC1000 and when it comes to traveling, you already now my choice on which one goes wth me.

The audio tracks is one of the things I haven't tried on the MV.

Can anyone compare how they work to the audio tracks in JJ OS1? I use that feature constantly.

JNicks wrote:what exactly is it that makes you want to make a move on the mv, minus the vga output and minus the audiotrack recording or maybe a better way to phrase it would be what about the sequencing, sampling, chopping, and stuff like that is better on the mv?

Here's the worst part, and why I posted this: I've NEVER used an mv for more than 5 minutes at a guitar center over a year ago.

For me it comes down to the fact that the mv can replace my mpc1k functionally (if not work-flow wise..) and eliminate the need for me to have a multitracker, a seperate multisampler, and a bunch of effects boxes which are strewn around my office. And it'll do this for the price I can get for my mpc while allowing me to also get rid of a few other things it'll be filling the shoes of (although those shoes may be a little bigger than the mvs feet...) Is this gonna be a massive disappointment as a somewhat all-in-one machine? Or just a sacrifice here and there? Anyone?

FredFrank wrote:but since you have no scrolling cursor

I always hear about this but am unclear on it. are you talking that you can't see where you are in a wave form when chopping like in trim mode... or just visual rep of where you are on that big daw-looking screen (which i've done without fine for a good while)

legs mechanical wrote:

FredFrank wrote:but since you have no scrolling cursor

I always hear about this but am unclear on it. are you talking that you can't see where you are in a wave form when chopping like in trim mode... or just visual rep of where you are on that big daw-looking screen (which i've done without fine for a good while)

Well, there is no wave form in the data when your recording and the cursor is the red line that appears on the screen between the data you record. In most computer DAWs you can move that line to a certain part in the song or pattern to do some quick editing but not on the MV. Being that you're an MPC user, the screen shouldn't bother you too much, unless you try to use it like a computer DAW.

the mv is different. dont want to say one is better than the other. its just different. i have a mc-909. and i wouldnt get rid of it for nothing. but i feel the same about my mpc. i sold my 2000xl and some other gear to up to a 4k. in the end i didnt want to pay what the 4k's were going for at the time. so i just picked up a 1k to get me by. i could have just sold my 909 and picked up a 4k no sweat. but after thinking through it. it wasnt worth it. i can slang the 1k and put it on the 4k purchase and be cool later. the 909 gives me a different feal than i get from the mpc. ill never be without either.

LunaticBastard wrote:the mv is different. dont want to say one is better than the other. its just different. i have a mc-909. and i wouldnt get rid of it for nothing. but i feel the same about my mpc. i sold my 2000xl and some other gear to up to a 4k. in the end i didnt want to pay what the 4k's were going for at the time. so i just picked up a 1k to get me by. i could have just sold my 909 and picked up a 4k no sweat. but after thinking through it. it wasnt worth it. i can slang the 1k and put it on the 4k purchase and be cool later. the 909 gives me a different feal than i get from the mpc. ill never be without either.

Best way to put it.

I have both and like them for different reasons. If you work in and DAW, the mpc is perfect, if your looking for an all-in-one go MV. If the price is very good, keep them both... That's what I did, then bought a 2500... The learning curve is wide with the MV. Dig into the manual and see if you will need half of the tools on the MV, then decide.

yeah, no daw for me. think this is probably the best if i have to make a choice between the two. thanks a lot for all ya'lls input. as of wed. its a done deal.

if anyone's interested:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0279504109 (though i can't promise i won't try to buy it back from you in a month or two )

Congratulations. I really would like to get my hands on an MV at some point.