The MPC 4000 vs. 5000

dabmeister wrote:

SiMKE wrote:

jbraudio wrote:^^^ you should read the genius posts that were made here as well!

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=103788&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30

How does he/she do it?

OKey listen punk, if you need one hr to make a beat on mpc then go change your profession you shouldn't be fukin producer at first place.Am tired of ****** talking some sht about producing but they don't even know the basics.Holla when you see a real nigg

Whoaaaaa, no need for taking ish personal around here, it's only a public forum. It's funny I say this, 'cause I can be like an a$$ at times too, so I know what you're probably feeling at the moment slim.

Now, what's on the menu for the day?

jbraudio wrote:Who is this REALLY? lol It this Supreme Being? No no! Wait! I bet it's ONE jackin' with us! You are too much- It would be ALMOST as funny as Ali G if I could see ya...

Blue Haze wrote:On the real the thread should be about users who are
comfortable with their units. The music one makes and
the sounds one creates separates one from the rest.

Once some will come to realize no matter if two people
have any gear one will master it and the other will not
just the plain truth!!!!!



The future is software samplers!

Askia Shaheed wrote:

Blue Haze wrote:On the real the thread should be about users who are
comfortable with their units. The music one makes and
the sounds one creates separates one from the rest.

Once some will come to realize no matter if two people
have any gear one will master it and the other will not
just the plain truth!!!!!



The future is software samplers!

I don't know about that future. People have been saying that for a long time now..and we still have sampling workstations being produced: MPCs, MVs, Fantoms, M3s, Motifs, etc.....

Plus....I own/owned plenty of software samplers: Giga Studio(company went out of business), Emulator X, Kontakt 3 (sold that..crashed too much), Mach Five, Battery 3...none of those are as stable as any piece of the current hardware samplers....

Blue Haze wrote:and most will never learn to program so they will grow tired of the presets like a gang of folks did with the Triton series.

Lampdog wrote:

Blue Haze wrote:and most will never learn to program so they will grow tired of the presets like a gang of folks did with the Triton series.

As true as that is, it could be said about any workstation, BUT, for some reason it's always the Triton, lol.

Those people suck for not learning how to program. It's just as capable as anything else out there.

Lampdog wrote:

Blue Haze wrote:and most will never learn to program so they will grow tired of the presets like a gang of folks did with the Triton series.

As true as that is, it could be said about any workstation, BUT, for some reason it's always the Triton, lol.

Those people suck for not learning how to program. It's just as capable as anything else out there.

WatchYoNuggets wrote:Damn I had to take most of the things I said about the build quality of the MV back.
Yesterday my F Button straight fell into the MV?! I wasn`t hammering on it or anything.

So I checked MV Nation and it seems to be very common for the buttons on the mv to break and fall into the casing like that. (since they are just glued to the case?!!)
I was like WTF?

I bought the MV 3 months ago (brandnew!) and was gentle on it like I always em (on every drum-machine I`ve owned no beating or hammering the pads or buttons.)

This is ridicolus a 2000$ machine with the buttons glued to the case and breaking easy like that during normal usage.
**** that!!
(You also can`t just glue the button back on since it`s a set of buttons in on piece)

Plus you have to take the mainboards (basically the whole components apart to reach the top-panel buttons) it takes 1 1/2 hours to take all the components apart and reach that **** according to roland .
I opened a couple of devices and MPC`s to fix this and that. But I was schocked after I`ve opened the MV cause it`s obviously not an cakewalk to get this managed.
I almost like(d) everything on the MV but this is unacceptable.

So everone who is considering to purchase The MV please have in mind that this is not an individual case but rather common on the MV Buttons (see MV nation)
It seemed like those buttons who didn`t broke was those who wasn`t used at all (VGA/mouse working) lol

P.S. Yes I have the warranty and can have roland to send me those buttons but I have to take the whole machine apart (believe me It is not as easy as it sounds to be) + It can happen again and I`m without gear for days now(hopefully just days) lol.

I mean common the **** was new and it breaks down like that after 3 months cause the buttons on it are crappy in general?

P.S. must be pretty fun when playing live and your **** button breaks down on you and fall into the casing.

Blue Haze wrote:

WatchYoNuggets wrote:Damn I had to take most of the things I said about the build quality of the MV back.
Yesterday my F Button straight fell into the MV?! I wasn`t hammering on it or anything.

So I checked MV Nation and it seems to be very common for the buttons on the mv to break and fall into the casing like that. (since they are just glued to the case?!!)
I was like WTF?

I bought the MV 3 months ago (brandnew!) and was gentle on it like I always em (on every drum-machine I`ve owned no beating or hammering the pads or buttons.)

This is ridicolus a 2000$ machine with the buttons glued to the case and breaking easy like that during normal usage.
**** that!!
(You also can`t just glue the button back on since it`s a set of buttons in on piece)

Plus you have to take the mainboards (basically the whole components apart to reach the top-panel buttons) it takes 1 1/2 hours to take all the components apart and reach that **** according to roland .
I opened a couple of devices and MPC`s to fix this and that. But I was schocked after I`ve opened the MV cause it`s obviously not an cakewalk to get this managed.
I almost like(d) everything on the MV but this is unacceptable.

So everone who is considering to purchase The MV please have in mind that this is not an individual case but rather common on the MV Buttons (see MV nation)
It seemed like those buttons who didn`t broke was those who wasn`t used at all (VGA/mouse working) lol

P.S. Yes I have the warranty and can have roland to send me those buttons but I have to take the whole machine apart (believe me It is not as easy as it sounds to be) + It can happen again and I`m without gear for days now(hopefully just days) lol.

I mean common the **** was new and it breaks down like that after 3 months cause the buttons on it are crappy in general?

P.S. must be pretty fun when playing live and your **** button breaks down on you and fall into the casing.

All I can say is WOW!!!!!!!

Blue Haze wrote:Multisampling that can be done with a 4k, workstation or soft samplers. In this regard 4k has a edge over the 5k.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=dxuFAH46mrc

Blue Haze wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:

Blue Haze wrote:On the real the thread should be about users who are
comfortable with their units. The music one makes and
the sounds one creates separates one from the rest.

Once some will come to realize no matter if two people
have any gear one will master it and the other will not
just the plain truth!!!!!



The future is software samplers!

I don't know about that future. People have been saying that for a long time now..and we still have sampling workstations being produced: MPCs, MVs, Fantoms, M3s, Motifs, etc.....

Plus....I own/owned plenty of software samplers: Giga Studio(company went out of business), Emulator X, Kontakt 3 (sold that..crashed too much), Mach Five, Battery 3...none of those are as stable as any piece of the current hardware samplers....

Yeah you are right about sampling workstations being produced and for a time to come for live productions and hands on feel no doubt..


But whether you owned or collected software (I have no problems will my plugins running on a Mac with Logic Studio) you should check your system setup jah no crashes like i said before it comes down to the individuals and their mastery of their gear.


Three words = SOUND LIBRARIES, MIDI, and INTEGRATION. Software samplers are the future in all expects.

With my 4k as the main sequencer and drum module too with my DAW and expanded libraries the SKY is the Limit.


Good SAMPLES, Fresh SAMPLES, Amazing SAMPLES beyond just PHRASES without them a hardware units or moot.


My needs boil down to samples.



Alot of users seek out the workstation sampler units regardless if they have access to add new sounds or not, and most will never learn to program so they will grow tired of the presets like a gang of folks did with the Triton series.