MPC5000 reviews, bug reports and fellow user support on the most recent standalone, hardware MPC from Akai
By dmarz45 Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:59 am
I ordered the 5000 without reading up on it first. I figured that it would just be a better version of the 2500. which is what I used to have before I sold it for a 3000. Now Im reading about all these things that are wrong with them. I ordered the 5000 yesterday and I should be recieving it by the end of the week. I really hope I dont regret getting this thing....
By dmarz45 Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:19 am
Aerodynamic321 wrote:just order a 5000 and a MV and return one of them before 30 days (depending on the store)


I ordered a brand new 5000 off of ebay for $1800 so i got a decent deal. It has the 1year factory warranty incase anything is wrong. Which would probably take FOREVER to get a new one back if I have to send back to Akai!! Im in the process of finding out if the ebay dealer will accept returns or not. Im really hoping that I am happy with it. I loved my 2500 when I first got it hopefully the same goes for this machine...

BUT In all honesty Ill probably love this machine. Most of the people who say bad things about the 5000 dont own one and just sound jealous that their old MPCs are out of date now... People are all going off of what Just Blaze said on his blogsite, when he got the 5000 when it first came out with OS 1.0 that was still a little buggy. Now with 1.02 there arent as many bugs and seems like it will probably be stable...
By Onkobu Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:33 am
There are enough opinions across the forum and to be honest: I'm disappointed, I never had a MPC and tried to use it as Music Production Center but it lacks so many basic features (Q-Link assignment only trackwise, SysEx can't be recorded nor played, hours of use force you to either face freeze or permanently saving something). "So I decided to take my work back underground..." and slave the MPC instead of selling it.
By dmarz45 Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:39 am
Onkobu wrote:There are enough opinions across the forum and to be honest: I'm disappointed, I never had a MPC and tried to use it as Music Production Center but it lacks so many basic features (Q-Link assignment only trackwise, SysEx can't be recorded nor played, hours of use force you to either face freeze or permanently saving something). "So I decided to take my work back underground..." and slave the MPC instead of selling it.



what do you mean face freeze? If you leave your unit on for too long it will freeze? And you should save your work anyway...
By diegoeskryptic Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:32 am
dmarz45 wrote:
what do you mean face freeze? If you leave your unit on for too long it will freeze? And you should save your work anyway...



there aint no face freeze.

however, you can screw up your MPC if you disconnect the MPC from USB improperly. You'll know if you did it improperly because the machine will freeze and you will have to reboot. Once u reboot, and try to connect via USB again, your machine will continue to keep freezing up every time u try to use USB.

To fix the freezing problem, just re-intialize the system (be sure to backup your sounds stored on the CF card!)...


TIP: To unmount properly, make sure your unmount the 5000 HD from the PC. Then wait a while and disconnect the USB from the back of the MPC first. Once the MPC says disconnect, go back to the main screen and your good.
By dmarz45 Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:20 pm
diegoeskryptic wrote:
dmarz45 wrote:
what do you mean face freeze? If you leave your unit on for too long it will freeze? And you should save your work anyway...



there aint no face freeze.

however, you can screw up your MPC if you disconnect the MPC from USB improperly. You'll know if you did it improperly because the machine will freeze and you will have to reboot. Once u reboot, and try to connect via USB again, your machine will continue to keep freezing up every time u try to use USB.

To fix the freezing problem, just re-intialize the system (be sure to backup your sounds stored on the CF card!)...


TIP: To unmount properly, make sure your unmount the 5000 HD from the PC. Then wait a while and disconnect the USB from the back of the MPC first. Once the MPC says disconnect, go back to the main screen and your good.


Yeah man thx so much for the tip! Im patiently waiting for my 5000. It was shipped on monday and its gonna take another 5 days or so to get here because of the massive amount of stuff being sent during this time of year. IT SUCKS!!!! But at least ill have it in time for xmas!!! What a great christmas present!!!


I also heard there is some problem with saving too. The 2500 akai OS had this problem too. you couldnt overwrite sequences or programs. If you overwrote a program or sequence and shut off the MPC they wouldnt load up and it would give you an error message. You had to delete the old program and sequence files and then save the new ones. I bet the same goes with this 5000... anybody know?
By Neilgray Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:29 pm
Do I regret buying an MPC5000? I originally replied to this question with an unjustified attack on the product, Akai and their Product Specialists which was totally misplaced. I realise now that I was looking for a desktop replacement for a synth workstation like the M3 or the Fantom and that is never what the 5k was intended to be. Having reconsidered my criticisms, they are not applicable to a unit whose raison d'etre is as a sampler, if I took the time to get into the operating system I am sure I would find it a brilliant piece of kit. I also revisited the video demo and must admit Mike Hosker's evaluation was well presented and he did get some great noises out of it.
If I do regret buying the 5k it is because I didn't take the trouble to see what it was really meant for and not because of any deficiencies in the unit itself.
I know lots of you are making great music on your 5ks and I wish you all a Happy Christmas and a successful and beatilicious New Year!
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By Jauly Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:23 am
Neilgray wrote:The sequencer is reasonably good but tempo changes require you to enter each event from the insert function, the step record method is basically the same as inserting a note and the screen offers little in the way of graphic help.
The effects may sound quite good but the method of fitting them to tracks is a farce, there are no global effects which you can use for every track in varying amouints.
The sampling system is fine for people used to these things with big libraries but for the uninitiated it is rather intimidating and discouraging, I never know where they go when you 've editied them and to use them at all you seem to have to put them in a program. When I used samples with Roland or Korg workstations they were there in memory straight away waiting to be used. Then when you want to save or load anything it's another strictly come dancing with the button pushes.


You point out some things very well. Akai will do useful improvements in the next OS for sure, as it is announced in the manual. That said, I assume they are learning from reviews like yours. Contrary to this, I hope they don't drop on the cool hardware of the 5000 by putting the (software) improvements into an MPC 5500. Roland did this "joke" with the MV and lost many followers and fans that way forever. I cannot say it enough, the hardware of the 5000 itself is VERY good.
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By [email protected] Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:46 am
I am really new to the MPC 5000 but I really like mine. I have only had it about 6 weeks. I took my Roland MV 8800 back to the store to pick up the 5000. They are both comparable but have different features. I find the MPC much more easy to use.
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By Jauly Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:48 am
[email protected] wrote:I am really new to the MPC 5000 but I really like mine. I have only had it about 6 weeks. I took my Roland MV 8800 back to the store to pick up the 5000. They are both comparable but have different features. I find the MPC much more easy to use.

Lol the same goes for me. I sold my MV 8000 and bought the MPC 5000. I am better with the 5000. That said, I do not regret buying it :)
By diegoeskryptic Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:09 am
Neilgray wrote:Do I regret buying an MPC5000? Yes.
When I first read about it and saw the picture I thought it looked a very exciting unit with lots of potential. Unfortuneately the reality has proved to be a massive disappointment with a half-hearted, lazy attempt to cash in on the Akai legacy.
The sequencer is reasonably good but tempo changes require you to enter each event from the insert function, the step record method is basically the same as inserting a note and the screen offers little in the way of graphic help.
The effects may sound quite good but the method of fitting them to tracks is a farce, there are no global effects which you can use for every track in varying amouints.
The sampling system is fine for people used to these things with big libraries but for the uninitiated it is rather intimidating and discouraging, I never know where they go when you 've editied them and to use them at all you seem to have to put them in a program. When I used samples with Roland or Korg workstations they were there in memory straight away waiting to be used. Then when you want to save or load anything it's another strictly come dancing with the button pushes.
I bought my 5k over 4 months ago but I've hardly used it, my early experiences with it put me right off. I find I have no incentive to switch it on because I know I will be met by an unfriendly environment and an uninspiring set of sounds. The lack of good sounds is doubly annoying since Akai's new drum machine has some brilliant samples, why couldn't we have got some of these?
If you want some evidence of what I am saying, go to the Roland website and watch their demo videos for the MV8800 and the Fantom G, you will find well featured units with excellent and easily accessible sounds. Go to the Youtube video demos of the 5k and you will find lists of poorly implemented features and some fairly uninspiring noises.
Yes, I do regret buying an Akai MPC5000.



^^^^^Never take advice from anyone who writes this much crap with so many grammatical errors. his advice is too subjective to be taken for a grain of salt. Demo the unit for yourself!!!
By dtaa pla muk Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:23 pm
the expression is commonly "taken with a grain of salt," and this isn't quite the right setting for it

reminds me of the part in Anchorman when Ron Burgundy doesn't understand the expression "when in rome"

Veronica: "Oh, well, when in Rome."
Ron: "Yes? Please go on."
Veronica: "Uh, do as the Romans do? It's an old expression."
Ron: "Oh! I've never heard of it."
Veronica: "Oh."
Ron: "It's wonderful, though."


then later

Veronica: "But it's very important to me that I be viewed as a professional."
Ron: "Right. When in Rome. Hmm."
Veronica: "Yeah. That, uh, expression doesn't really apply to what I'm talking about"
Ron: "Oh. Oh, I'm--"
Veronica: "What I was saying."
Ron: "I still don't quite understand what it means."
Veronica: "It'll come."
By dmarz45 Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:51 pm
Nym wrote:the expression is commonly "taken with a grain of salt," and this isn't quite the right setting for it

reminds me of the part in Anchorman when Ron Burgundy doesn't understand the expression "when in rome"

Veronica: "Oh, well, when in Rome."
Ron: "Yes? Please go on."
Veronica: "Uh, do as the Romans do? It's an old expression."
Ron: "Oh! I've never heard of it."
Veronica: "Oh."
Ron: "It's wonderful, though."


then later

Veronica: "But it's very important to me that I be viewed as a professional."
Ron: "Right. When in Rome. Hmm."
Veronica: "Yeah. That, uh, expression doesn't really apply to what I'm talking about"
Ron: "Oh. Oh, I'm--"
Veronica: "What I was saying."
Ron: "I still don't quite understand what it means."
Veronica: "It'll come."



haha great movie!! definitely top 5 funniest movies EVER made!!!!

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