Midi Timing after a few bars are off

I have the 2500 and i am having Midi timing problems. In the past I used the 2000 and the 3000 MPC's and was able to record audio and midi tracks with no problems using either MTC or Midi Time Clock.

My DAW is Nuendo 3 I have tried serveral different senarios that have not worked. I know about the emulate ports and I disable those. My mixer is Tascam 1884 with 2 FE8's

I know when I first install my DAW and drivers I some settings but I can not remember for some reason.


Thanks

Make sure your tempo is set to the same value throughout the entire session. Make sure you turn off the midi quantize in the DAW if possible.

Thanks for the reply I tried that originally with no luck it seems like it is not syncing correctly

Make sure both the MPC and DAW have frame rates set to 30 on MTC.

I have been having the same issue but with Cubase... Its always off by a couple milli seconds.

I have tried everything. So I just gave up.

Try setting the hardware buffer to the lowest setting. It should be somewhere around 128MB.

Its gotten down to this...

Its either 2 things.

1. It aint synching right

or

2. I dont know how to mix my track levels correctly. Which I honestly dont. Im a complete fvckn noob. Im saying this because on my MPC my beat sounds like a beast then I track the beat over to cubase and it sounds different? I have noticed that I can get it to sound good once I mess with the levels of each track.

IDK... This sh1t has gotten on my nerves real bad. Its fvckn up my game. Its a whole learning process so Im thinking that its my mixing.
I also dont know how to EQ... Prah had to EQ one of my beats for "Mixtape Volume 2" cuz I think I had to much distortion or something...

I also dont have monitors to bang my beats, I just use my Sony stereo system... Does it really make that much of a difference?

When you track your beats, the levels should be at the same level in relation to each other in the daw as the are in the MPC, unless you increase or decrease the input volume in the middle of tracking. When you track your beats, set all your faders in the daw to 0db. Set the input volume of the entire beat playing so it's nice and hot, but not clipping. Then record track every sound without touching the gain. Once you have all your sounds tracked, then you can eq and adjust gain of individual sounds. If you do it this way, the levels should be just the same as in the MPC.

Monitors do make a difference because they give you a flat sound which is what you want. You don't want speakers that will color your sound. You want to color your sound the way you want it. With good monitors, you start off with your mix flat and you can add all the color you want. You don't want unnatural color. Plus, a nice set of monitors won't fatigue your ears as much or as fast when listening at loud volumes.

Check these out. Hope they help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Kc2Z9GkYI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHus5_Ze ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJOd4u8b ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG4Nzjc0 ... re=related

DJ Hellfire wrote:When you track your beats, the levels should be at the same level in relation to each other in the daw as the are in the MPC, unless you increase or decrease the input volume in the middle of tracking. When you track your beats, set all your faders in the daw to 0db. Set the input volume of the entire beat playing so it's nice and hot, but not clipping. Then record track every sound without touching the gain. Once you have all your sounds tracked, then you can eq and adjust gain of individual sounds. If you do it this way, the levels should be just the same as in the MPC.

Monitors do make a difference because they give you a flat sound which is what you want. You don't want speakers that will color your sound. You want to color your sound the way you want it. With good monitors, you start off with your mix flat and you can add all the color you want. You don't want unnatural color. Plus, a nice set of monitors won't fatigue your ears as much or as fast when listening at loud volumes.

Check these out. Hope they help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Kc2Z9GkYI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHus5_Ze ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJOd4u8b ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG4Nzjc0 ... re=related

Thanks man your a big help...

I been tracking my beats that way though... For some reason somethings end up sound alot louder than they did on the MPC? Maybe its just my stereo thats tricking my ears.

But Alot of times my drums sound perfect on the MPC and then once I track my beat the drums sound TOO LOUD.

Im gonna watch those vids right now.

Peace

That's wierd. Only other thing I can really suggest is that make sure you don't use any plug-ins while recording. Also, keep everything with the same amount of channels as the source. For example, if your drums are mono in your MPC, record them to mono tracks in the DAW, not to stereo tracks. And vice versa, if you are using stereo drums, record them into the daw to stereo tracks. Same thing goes for your samples and melodies. Hope you get it straightened out!

Explicit- wrote:I have been having the same issue but with Cubase... Its always off by a couple milli seconds.

I have tried everything. So I just gave up.

great minds think alike. mpc 2500 and midi sync will just never b smooth. then again midi syncing does strip tracks of some type of groove. even on my asr10 the pro tools can make it sound flatter then white girls ass's

Maybe I over looked this but make sure your using the latest operating system 1.24.
1.23 had some sync issues. Hope that helps.


Version 1.24
New Features / Changes

5. Fixed issue where MIDI clock sync would drift when MPC2500 was slave.

Off a bit on this one.. Yes 1.24 that does not help at all a simple coding should have avoided such an upgrade the Q&A at Akai seems to me horrible.

I may have missed this tho when I had setup my MPC2000 & 3000 to recieve and transmitted midi about 3 years back I though the setting was to avoid emulated ports?

I see in the video it shows that user selecting it. This is what I am most likely missing with my timing problem. It is friday this is a night were I have about 9 hours to do my thing and i will test it out and see.

Thanks to all