FEATURES REQUEST ( users only please ! )

1. when recording track mutes, ...if the track is muted on the first beat, but then at the end is turned off, ....then you stop the playing, and then start the sequence from the beginning, ...it will not 'remember' that you wanted to record the start of the particular track from the muted position.

2. ...many times in HD record mode, the computer has to "think" too much, and sometimes gets so caught up in thinking, it has to simply stop. i which this part of the MPC 5000 would become more CPU efficient.

3. ...more features in the HD 8-track record mode. ; )

5. keygrouping.

JJ OS features (MPC 2500/1000) that are unavailable in the 5K. Some of these would make nice additions to the 5K:

1. Global program edit
2. Instrument programs (keymapped)
3. Real Time Pitch Shift
4. Sample layer crossfade w/aftertouch
5. Non-Destructive Chop
6. Portamento
7. Pong Game
8. Maximum Events (Notes) 300,000
9. Customizable Click/Metronome Sound
10. Start offset of a sample (audio track)
11. Simult SEQ
12. Chromatically assign note numbers to pads
13. Pitch ADSR w/ reverse sample playback
14. 32 Audio tracks (no program needed unlike continuous sample tracks)
15. Graphic waveform display of audio tracks in main window
16. Pad Locate
17. Step Sound
18. SEQ/Track/Prgm List
19. Extra Audio Play (Real time timestretch)
20. Pattern Play
21. Master Tempo
22. Output on Track Mixer
23. Splash Screens

!!! keygroups / sampling with chromatic assign in keyzones on single MIDI channels !!!
boys, its a sampler. no, its a sampling WORKSTATION! even a 20 year old s1000 can do this!!
I want to do music with it, not only beats.

and yes, we need a JJ OS for the 5000

Jauly wrote:!!! keygroups / sampling with chromatic assign in keyzones on single MIDI channels !!!
boys, its a sampler. no, its a sampling WORKSTATION! even a 20 year old s1000 can do this!!
I want to do music with it, not only beats.

We are losing creativity here. What you have posted has been written about several times in this 6 page thread

Askia Shaheed wrote:

Jauly wrote:!!! keygroups / sampling with chromatic assign in keyzones on single MIDI channels !!!
boys, its a sampler. no, its a sampling WORKSTATION! even a 20 year old s1000 can do this!!
I want to do music with it, not only beats.

We are losing creativity here. What you have posted has been written about several times in this 6 page thread

This is the most needed request from my side as a user. I think we should not concentrate on creativity here, even the first post has already over 20 points! If we want to be taken serious by akai and have some basics fixed in the new OS, we have stick to the most user requestet features.

Jauly wrote:This is the most needed request from my side as a user. I think we should not concentrate on creativity here, even the first post has already over 20 points! If we want to be taken serious by akai and have some basics fixed in the new OS, we have stick to the most user requestet features.

On a side note.....I would really love to hear what people do with the keygroup instruments if/when Akai adds it in a future operating system. The MPC 1000/ 2500 (using JJ OS) and 4000 already has this function...but I haven't heard too much music coming from forums members that claim they use this function.

Jauly wrote:!!! keygroups / sampling with chromatic assign in keyzones on single MIDI channels !!!
boys, its a sampler. no, its a sampling WORKSTATION! even a 20 year old s1000 can do this!!
I want to do music with it, not only beats.

and yes, we need a JJ OS for the 5000

Hopefully, this will qualify as "doing music" with the 5K and not onlu beats The patch playing was recorded and edited on the 5K. Even wthout the keygroup feature everyone wants, it is possible to a map multisample instrument across a sample program chromatically:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgJiIIiKp3g

Even 20 year old samplers and all legacy MPCs can do this....

No JJ OS is needed for the 5K...I think Akai/Numark has this under control...

Askia Shaheed wrote:
Hopefully, this will qualify as "doing music" with the 5K and not onlu beats The patch playing was recorded and edited on the 5K. Even wthout the keygroup feature everyone wants, it is possible to a map multisample instrument across a sample program chromatically:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgJiIIiKp3g

Very nice! But tuning step by step with hand is kinda unbelievable for the sampling flagship in 2008

It would be a fantastic thing if the keyzone feature would be implemented to the synth section.
Then, alternatively to the oscillators, you should be able to select your samples !!

btw. I miss a very BASIC function:

save "single song" with everything associated.

I mean the possibility to save a single song and its associated (only used) samples/synths plus fx/programm settings in one folder automatically named after the song. I don't find an option to name a folder on the hd with the mpc. so why not naming it automatically after the saved song?

if I had to load again the song, I just would load the folder and everything for that song would be there then (including fx settings and a cleared memory of all other things).

there now is "save all seq. and songs", which, hmm, sounds a bit confusing for me, because it leaves out the programmes and samples. the only relevant option is "save entire memory" but this can't be the solution, it saves all unused files too.

Keygroups and Aksys. A Midi library editor similar to what the MPK has.

Jauly wrote:btw. I miss a very BASIC function:

save "single song" with everything associated.

I mean the possibility to save a single song and its associated (only used) samples/synths plus fx/programm settings in one folder automatically named after the song. I don't find an option to name a folder on the hd with the mpc. so why not naming it automatically after the saved song?

if I had to load again the song, I just would load the folder and everything for that song would be there then (including fx settings and a cleared memory of all other things).

there now is "save all seq. and songs", which, hmm, sounds a bit confusing for me, because it leaves out the programmes and samples. the only relevant option is "save entire memory" but this can't be the solution, it saves all unused files too.

That is certainly a nice idea. But not so easy to implement if you think of it. The MPC should track down which sequences are used in a song, which tracks are used in those sequences, which synth programs are used in those tracks and which sample programs are used in those tracks and which samples are used in those programs.
Then it should also find out which FX presets are used.

Will ask if this is possible though.

Boele

Well.

I work around by making for every song a special folder and save entire memory.

I also make own folders for samples and own for synth progs.

After all, I think this feature is not that important as I thought. I just was used from the older Akai Samplers that Programms+Samples could be saved, so I thought this could be handled for Songs too.

There are other features of more importance.

Jauly wrote:There are other features of more importance.

Yeah...like an MPC synth-capture function. You connect a synth to the MPCs MIDI IN/OUTS and analog/digital inputs. In the MPC Record Mode, you set the number of notes/keygroups, number of velocity layers, etc. Then the MPC will automatically record/create an MPC multi-sampled instrument from your external synth/sound module. EMUs software sampler and I believe Korg's highend workstation has this feature

Askia Shaheed wrote:You connect a synth to the MPCs MIDI IN/OUTS and analog/digital inputs. In the MPC Record Mode, you set the number of notes/keygroups, number of velocity layers, etc. Then the MPC will automatically record/create an MPC multi-sampled instrument from your external synth/sound module.

Great idea, a monster feature like this would pull it back to the throne of MPCs

As I do much electronic sounding stuff, I find it necessary to record the sliders/knobs movements of the synths into sequence/track data. There is the work around to resample or HD-record what you do with the sliders, but for minimal tracks like I do (about 6-10) minutes per song, its not a good solution. It's a waste of the synth engine.

Is it that you folks meant by "synth automation"?

Another feature improvement would be the possiblity of routing 8 single fx (than only 4 dual).

scd wrote:

Jauly wrote:btw. I miss a very BASIC function:

save "single song" with everything associated.

I mean the possibility to save a single song and its associated (only used) samples/synths plus fx/programm settings in one folder automatically named after the song. I don't find an option to name a folder on the hd with the mpc. so why not naming it automatically after the saved song?

if I had to load again the song, I just would load the folder and everything for that song would be there then (including fx settings and a cleared memory of all other things).

there now is "save all seq. and songs", which, hmm, sounds a bit confusing for me, because it leaves out the programmes and samples. the only relevant option is "save entire memory" but this can't be the solution, it saves all unused files too.

That is certainly a nice idea. But not so easy to implement if you think of it. The MPC should track down which sequences are used in a song, which tracks are used in those sequences, which synth programs are used in those tracks and which sample programs are used in those tracks and which samples are used in those programs.
Then it should also find out which FX presets are used.

Will ask if this is possible though.

Boele

Wow! I was unaware that this is not possible. This is a big deal. The 4k could do this because it would save the mixer settings for the song. The mixer remembers all the programs and the samples with them. The Rolands and Yamaha can do this too.