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By [email protected] Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:48 pm
Been doing a good deal of reading and I have heard people raving about vestax's. They have a new turntable the pdx-3000mix that looks pretty cool but I have not seen any reviews other than the people trying to sell it to me on their websites. Can anyone vouch for this thing personally? I am looking for one REALLY nice scratching turntable and a mixer. I'd say the price limit would be $1200 for the two products, again for emphasis this is Primarily for scratching vinyl samples. And yes I know about technics :) Appreciate any knowledge guys thanks :D
By Chackosh Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:50 pm
Hey [email protected],

I am by no means an expert or a super noob but I think I can give you some good information.

From what I have read and heard the pdx-3000mix is exactly the same as the pdx-3000 the only major difference being that the pdx-3000mix has curved tone arm.

Curved tone arms (s arms) are more suited for "mixing" a mix dj would really benefit from this tone arm configuration not a scratch dj. Curved arms apparently have better sound quality but skip more during scratching (that is what i have heard unless they are set up correctly it kinda defeats the purpose of getting a s-arm)

The Technics 1210 etc have the curved tone arm but when they are set up correctly (weight anti skate etc) with the right cartridge something like the Shure M44-7 they are pretty much skip proof. The techs are the only TT's with curved tone arms that I have seen people use for scratching.

It is not impossible to scratch with a curved tonearm but straight tone arms are the way to go.

I recently bought my first TT and Mixer I bought Stanton STR8. 150 and a Vestax PMC-05ProIII VCA mixer
I can vouch for both of those products and say they are awesome I am really happy with my purchase.

I was either going to get
PDX-3000, Technics 1210 Mk2, or the STR8. 150

I really liked the vestax, it is also the cheapest of the 3 but it has a plastic body and that turned me off the product.
The STR8. 150 has everything the Technics had plus more and they were cheaper so I bought them (they are built like tanks).

If I was going to get any Vestax TT I would get the PDX-2000 MKll
They are pretty hard to find in Australia so that choice was gone.

If I was you I would probably get the Vestax PMC-05ProIII VCA mixer (good price gangsta mixer) or if you want to go all out I would get a Rane TTM 56 or a Ecler HAK 360 (I think that is cheaper than the Rane).

Check this site out as well http://www.skratchworx.com/reviews_turntables.php

Aiight I wrote a lot but I'll add my final thought here

If you are really crash hot on getting a Vestax turntable get a PDX-2000 MKll or a PDX-3000 (both straight arm)
Go for a straight arm turn table and look into the Stanton STR8-150 or the Technics.

I recommend the Stantons but you should go to a shop that sells Dj equipment in and test all the tables out.

Aiight as for the mixer I would just go for the Vestax PMC-05ProIII VCA mixer it has everything you need.

I hope I have helped.
I all really tired now I cbf reading through it all and editing it, I hope it makes sense lols.

Christmas is wack.
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By [email protected] Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:42 pm
You probably got arthritis after writing that! :lol: I am reading it over and over you dropped some excellent information in there and saved me from overspending for the straight arm tables. The reason I have them out front is it seems the only gripe people have is their sturdiness but it seems (from the reviews on the 3000 I have read) that it is actually extremely durable, it just has a plastic feel. I am going to check out the reviews for the products you posted and hopefully will be ready to buy in a week or two :D If anyone else wants to throw in their 2 cents please do but that last post was awesome man!
By bedouin Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:19 am
I will repeat my advice: if you can afford it, get a Stanton ST-150/STR-150 or Vestax; if not, get Technics.

If you cannot afford Technics, then Gemini's TT-04 or perhaps another Stanton deck.
By epok Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:25 pm
easy now.

Get the - STANTON STR8-150s

I was debating beetween these and techs last year and finally decided on the stanton, now usually i wud have gone with techs but after doin my research i opted for the stantons....best way i can put it is; they are like technuics on steroids...they never skip, best toqrque available (when i brought mine), lots of useful features like reverse, changing stop/start speed etc, and they look propa good...they are very heavy which is abit annoying when in transport, but they are SOLID.
My m8s who have technics have reluctantly admitted that would swop if they had chance.

Only my opinion and i am definately a fan of Technics but if you go with these you will not be dissapointed.

p.s havent tried the Vestax so cnt comment.

Good luck...sorry for the ramble...im abit blazed

peas
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By [email protected] Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:20 pm
1. Forgot an obvious question where should I buy from?(So far DJ Deals looks like the best... Vestax PDX 3000 is $575, and Vestax mixer suggested above was $375)

2. Any other opinions on what mixer to grab?? I am probably gonna order all this together.
Last edited by [email protected] on Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
By bedouin Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:56 pm
If you want to keep it strictly Stanton and inexpensive the SA-5 is a decent mixer.

I'm using the classic, standard PMC-05.
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By [email protected] Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:47 am
Also I know it is heresy to talk about mp3's or any digital music here :D , but is it possible to scratch an mp3 on my cpu utilizing any of the above mentioned turntables vinyl and record the results and dump it into Pro Tools? Not sure that is clear but I basically wonder if I can take a song from itunes, scratch out a sample using a real physical vinyl turntable, and record the results into Pro Tools. I know I said the same thing twice but I just wanted to be clear lol
By bedouin Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:51 am
If you get Serator, Traktor or a similar DVS, yes.

You'll need to invest in more hardware though. Or you could look at the Denon DNS-3500.
By roxstar Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:46 am
Don't wanna jack the thread, but does anyone remember the vestax turntable with the joystick? You could reverse the platter, and adjust the speed with it. I remember this table years ago.. about 9 years ago now, and seen it in the stores VERY briefly. It was all black with a large digital display. Probably the dopest turntable I ever seen.
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By [email protected] Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:53 am
It's definitely a vestax I am guessing pdx 2300 Pro?? While I've been shopping I definitely came across it... BTW I just ordered a VESTAX PDX-2000MKII TURNTABLE, VESTAX PMC-05PRO III MIXER. It was so close between the stanton but the Vestax has more toys and I am a sucker for that shit. Look forward to buggin the shit out of more of you with my questions when I get my stuff lol :D
By bedouin Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:55 am
Nah, but a lot of people are moving toward it instead of Serato.

Not really into DVS myself; I use a 1210 and two CD-J 800s.