By LesPasta
Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:37 pm
that would be a nice feature... I think I remember the ASR-X Pro functioning like an analog drum machine
By Lampdog
Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:34 pm
I'm thinking the asr x pro stomper software and 5k's synth are 2 totally different things.
Stop getting automatically offended when you see gold letters!
By LesPasta
Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:30 pm
Lampdog wrote:I'm thinking the asr x pro stomper software and 5k's synth are 2 totally different things.
yes, no doubt... i was just recalling a sampler with analog drum machine-type features...
i should've worded it better but my question was if it would be possible to design drum sounds (no drum kits, which i actually said in my original post) with the MPC5000 synth...
By mjames4208
Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:46 pm
I saw a VIDEO a few years ago on sonicstate.com.
the guy on the video took a Korg MS2000 and created
808 & 909 sounds from scratch... since the MPC5000
has a real virtual analog synth engine, i'm sure the same priniples would apply.
synth designing is an art form of its own.. takes a lot of knowledge.
i'm more of a tweaker ( trial and era ) than a programmer so i really can't
help you, sorry.
http://insidesynthesis.blogspot.com/200 ... chine.html
the guy on the video took a Korg MS2000 and created
808 & 909 sounds from scratch... since the MPC5000
has a real virtual analog synth engine, i'm sure the same priniples would apply.
synth designing is an art form of its own.. takes a lot of knowledge.
i'm more of a tweaker ( trial and era ) than a programmer so i really can't
help you, sorry.
http://insidesynthesis.blogspot.com/200 ... chine.html
"I'm careful not to confuse excellence with perfection. For excellence I can strive for, but perfection is God's business."
By Lampdog
Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:13 pm
I don't have a 5k, but sometimes I use this when I'm mesing around on pc.
I had an ASR X Pro for a few months then I sold it cause I didn't like the etch-a-sketch
knob interface, everything else about it I loved though. I miss it, I'm restraining myself
from getting another just because of the etch-a-sketch way of living, I couldn't stand it.
http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/drumsynth.shtml
"Additive Drum Synthesizer"
DrumSynth is a synthesizer for producing drum sounds. It can reproduce sounds from classic analogue drum machines with new clarity and programmability as it uses the same building blocks (oscillators, noise generators and filters), but also make entirely new drums, pitched sounds and sound effects!
DrumSynth is not an analogue synthesizer simulation (check out TS-404 if that's what you're looking for)! DrumSynth can't play it's sounds in real-time, isn't polyphonic, and has no LFOs or resonant filters.
What DrumSynth does have is a range of synthesis methods based on analogue electronics, with enough parameters to produce a wide range of sounds, all available for fast, convenient operation. DrumSynth also allows you to organise and audition your sounds, and store and distribute your sounds in very small .DS files.
DrumSynth is perfect for use with HammerHead's Userbank Creator or any other drum box that lets you import your own samples as you easily can save your sounds to .WAV (which then, of course, have to be converted to .RAW with for example Cool Edit 96).
123 pre-made drum sounds and effects are available when you download the program, conveniently sorted in different folders such as Acoustic, CR 8000, Techno and TR 808. The number of sounds that can be created is of course unlimited.
I had an ASR X Pro for a few months then I sold it cause I didn't like the etch-a-sketch
knob interface, everything else about it I loved though. I miss it, I'm restraining myself
from getting another just because of the etch-a-sketch way of living, I couldn't stand it.
http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/drumsynth.shtml
"Additive Drum Synthesizer"
DrumSynth is a synthesizer for producing drum sounds. It can reproduce sounds from classic analogue drum machines with new clarity and programmability as it uses the same building blocks (oscillators, noise generators and filters), but also make entirely new drums, pitched sounds and sound effects!
DrumSynth is not an analogue synthesizer simulation (check out TS-404 if that's what you're looking for)! DrumSynth can't play it's sounds in real-time, isn't polyphonic, and has no LFOs or resonant filters.
What DrumSynth does have is a range of synthesis methods based on analogue electronics, with enough parameters to produce a wide range of sounds, all available for fast, convenient operation. DrumSynth also allows you to organise and audition your sounds, and store and distribute your sounds in very small .DS files.
DrumSynth is perfect for use with HammerHead's Userbank Creator or any other drum box that lets you import your own samples as you easily can save your sounds to .WAV (which then, of course, have to be converted to .RAW with for example Cool Edit 96).
123 pre-made drum sounds and effects are available when you download the program, conveniently sorted in different folders such as Acoustic, CR 8000, Techno and TR 808. The number of sounds that can be created is of course unlimited.
Stop getting automatically offended when you see gold letters!
By LvngDead
Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:55 pm
off-topic. I am starting to get past the etch-asketch interface and the small "quirks" of the sequencer. This machine is a fking beast.
what equipment do you already have , lampdog?
what equipment do you already have , lampdog?
By Lampdog
Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:14 pm
4k, 2kxlse2 (I had a grey/white 2kxl.
Sold the 2kxl to get an asr x pro, sold the asr x pro to get a 2kxlse2.
Less powerful but much more enjoyable machine.
asr10, triton extreme.
I'm selling my 2kxl after I get aquainted with my 4k.
I'm buying a Korg M-3 and selling the Triton Extreme in 5 weeks.
Gonna get a bigger crib than before and put it all together finally.
If I hadn't found that deal on a maxed 4k, I was going to get a 5k
no doubt about it.
The 5k was calling me.
Sold the 2kxl to get an asr x pro, sold the asr x pro to get a 2kxlse2.
Less powerful but much more enjoyable machine.
asr10, triton extreme.
I'm selling my 2kxl after I get aquainted with my 4k.
I'm buying a Korg M-3 and selling the Triton Extreme in 5 weeks.
Gonna get a bigger crib than before and put it all together finally.
If I hadn't found that deal on a maxed 4k, I was going to get a 5k
no doubt about it.
The 5k was calling me.
Stop getting automatically offended when you see gold letters!
By LvngDead
Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:28 pm
nah nevermind. you don't need no asr x pro when you already got all that.
you ever check the rs7000?
you ever check the rs7000?
By Lampdog
Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:24 pm
Nope.
Stop getting automatically offended when you see gold letters!
By Neilgray
Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:02 pm
This is not so much for you Lespasta, but for anyone who has wondered how drum sounds are made on a synth and happens to have wandered onto this thread. I have just purchased a book by a producer called Rick Snoman called "The Dance Music Manual" published by Focal Press (www.focalpress.com). It's a pretty hefty read, I'm not halfway through yet, but it does contain a lot of useful info on synth programming including all the TR/Simmons type drum sounds and of course all the leads, basses and pads as well. I'd never heard of this book before but it really is very good and I now understand a lot more of how the technology works, the guy has a lot of musical as well as technical knowledge and takes trouble to explain it clearly. It's expensive at £24.99p (I got my copy at Borders UK) but it might be cheaper online, and it certainly contains more info than five copies of any of the tech mags, and the 2000XL makes an appearance in the "Tools of the Trade"chapter! I don't have any connection to the firm or the writer so this is a personal view of the book, but for anyone new to synths, sampling and sequencing it could be very useful over a long period of time. 
By dsp
Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:12 pm
I was searching a book along those lines.... thanks for the suggestion neilgray. 
By scd
Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:08 pm
LesPasta wrote:Lampdog wrote:I'm thinking the asr x pro stomper software and 5k's synth are 2 totally different things.
yes, no doubt... i was just recalling a sampler with analog drum machine-type features...
i should've worded it better but my question was if it would be possible to design drum sounds (no drum kits, which i actually said in my original post) with the MPC5000 synth...
I never tried really, but the ingredients are there: snappy envelopes, all kind of filters and self resonance, noise, LFOs. Mmm...
By Jauly
Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:15 pm
scd wrote:LesPasta wrote:Lampdog wrote:I'm thinking the asr x pro stomper software and 5k's synth are 2 totally different things.
yes, no doubt... i was just recalling a sampler with analog drum machine-type features...
i should've worded it better but my question was if it would be possible to design drum sounds (no drum kits, which i actually said in my original post) with the MPC5000 synth...
I never tried really, but the ingredients are there: snappy envelopes, all kind of filters and self resonance, noise, LFOs. Mmm...
And you can even resample your home built synthdrums as samples
By DLP
Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:19 am
This is my new combo. 5000 + DRM1 MKIII. Sounds great.
By NorthernElite
Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:44 am
^^^ No need to simulate analog drums, when you actually have analog drums...lol
Nice Bro!
Nice Bro!
Akai MPC 5000