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By objektivone Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:38 pm
The only thing that has me confused is the beats in these videos suck ass.
Not to mention what does 4 dudes breaking shit with lighting have to do with a good beat product.
This is some stupid ish. :lol:
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By narkotiq Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:46 pm
ok lets take all things into perspective here...

it may not be the best looking machine in the wolrd, or have a good advertising campaign,

but, if this thing pops off and gets goin, like the guy above said it will actually have some pretty decent features IMO.

and aswell, i say fair play to anybody who has the balls to go it alone and start to produce their own sampler/sequencer, thats what these guys did, and now they actually have a finished product which to me is an amazing feat, considering the way then industry has went these days.

i myself will not be buying one, i'm happy with my 2500, baring in mind i absolutley despise akai...but i say all the best to those guys, i hope all goes well for them. with the right direction, who knows? in years to come and people are considering to buy their first drum machne, the beat thang really might be an option.

just my two cents.

peace.
By objektivone Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:57 pm
AWW_NAWW wrote:im pretty sure it will sell. It not ment for most of us here but more for the guy/gal who want to get their feet wet in this music production ****. I like that its portable but all those damn lights can go. To be honest though I wish somethin like this was out back when I was like 14 or 15 I would have bit hard at it.


I will give mad props to this. I forgot about the youngins who want to produce. +1 to that.
Some people with less money and less confidence they will stay with it might benefit from this.
By MPZ60 Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:07 pm
It's just another groovebox.. I think it is only being discussed this much because it was labled as an Akai killer.. I wouldn't mind having on but yeah the commercial hurts it way more than it helps it... Using " Beat " in your name sucks... The real Akai killer is the computer but that's a whole other discussion... I would use it if someone gave me it or I could get it cheap. In no way does it really seem like this is a piece that has the quality of Akai stuff..
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By Coz Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:10 pm
MPZ60 wrote:In no way does it really seem like this is a piece that has the quality of Akai stuff..


Maybe not, but it sounds like they are going to support it which Akai could learn a thing or two about.
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By kneebone77 Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:32 pm
MPZ60 wrote:I think it is only being discussed this much because it was labled as an Akai killer...


Huh...that's a trip, I didn't pay much attention to the fact they were calling it an Akai killer.
That's funny. :lol:
Any way I'm not gonna go trading in my MPC for this and I'll still probably add another MPC to the arsenal when it's all said and done.

But..., I had been thinkin about copping a Roland SP-404. But now I wanna see what this thing is looking like functionally and price wise before I decide.

It's ugly, the Ads are wack, but I just have a strange gut feeling about this piece and I've never been wrong about gear before...
I'm Juiced. 8) And I'm glad someone is keeping the idea of a hardware beat machine alive.
By objektivone Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:25 pm
cyrus wrote:if madlib used one, you'd all be on his dick and in line ordering one just like the sp303...............


Yo can do some really cool things with the 404 and 303 that you can't do with the MPC though.....
Like make your drums sound good.
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By Fung45 Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:22 pm
objektivone wrote:
cyrus wrote:if madlib used one, you'd all be on his dick and in line ordering one just like the sp303...............


Yo can do some really cool things with the 404 and 303 that you can't do with the MPC though.....
Like make your drums sound good.

Pretty bold statement, I can name you alot of producers with 'good' sounding drums who don't process them through a 303 or 404, Premier is an example.
By objektivone Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:33 pm
Fung45 wrote:
objektivone wrote:
cyrus wrote:if madlib used one, you'd all be on his dick and in line ordering one just like the sp303...............


Yo can do some really cool things with the 404 and 303 that you can't do with the MPC though.....
Like make your drums sound good.

Pretty bold statement, I can name you alot of producers with 'good' sounding drums who don't process them through a 303 or 404, Premier is an example.


You can def make good sounding drums on the MP but it is much easier to make NEW drum sounds on the 404. Because you have options that let you completely alter the sound like Sub Bass, Distortion, Overdrive, Filtering, EQing, etc.

The MP has a lot of these effects but they are very easy to use on the 303 and 404 so you can tweak and mix drums real quick. Not to mention the way sound is processed in the 404 sounds really thick and grimey to me.

Not to mention you mentioned Madlib and I know he makes some drum sounds on his 404.
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By four eyes Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:56 pm
i think the idea of a device tailor made by actual beatmakers and with actual support for its users is dope but this machine will probably fail due to its lack of universal appeal and overall ridiculous hype. who knows though.

if some more respectable producers took this idea and were more professional about it i think it would go over really well.
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By kneebone77 Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:07 am
four eyes wrote:i think the idea of a device tailor made by actual beatmakers and with actual support for its users is dope but this machine will probably fail due to its lack of universal appeal and overall ridiculous hype.


I mos def see your point, and conversely I know people who produce house music who bought gear like the Rave-o-lution that didn't have a universal appeal. I can't attest to whether or not it failed. Target marketing won't automatically spell out failure, after all they achieved some success with they're last endeavor. There is probably gonna be allot of "hip hop" kids that will jump all over this. E-mu did this with they're Proteus series stuff, the only difference being that they created a specific box for every genre.
But still in all I feel you, if the marketing was more universal, and the look of the machine more neutral they would open up the potential to sell units to those who have know intentions of creating urban music. It is what it is.

The way I see it is these guys are creating the machine of they're dreams. If I were designing a beat machine it's feature would most likely reflect many of my personal views on the music making process...
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