Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
By mozzy4k Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:26 am
Guys, I am very sad. I shipped my MPC back.

I hadn't been this excited about a new piece of gear in a long time...


The issues I had after only having it 3 days... I could not take it any longer.

I know with anything there has to be the expectation of bugs or shortfalls of the system. Given that, I looked past most of them.

(Most reasons I got from sellers on E-bay as to the reason they were selling... "The thing is just to buggy or complicated.")

But I can't spend approx 2500$ on a device and not be able to integrate it with my PC.

For what I am trying to do, it is CRITICAL that I be able to use the MPC with my PC and it be STABLE
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AKsys is just entirely to buggy.

Now if this was the only thing I had to make music. It would be GREAT. A friend of mine has a 2000 model. He loves it. That's all he has and he is able to do some cool things with it.

This forum is an invaluable tool and it was starting to feel like family to me.

Thank you very much to everyone that took the time to answer, confirm or explain the questions I had with my MPC.
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By kaotikmuzikproductions Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:47 am
I've had my 4000 over two years,and i've never used Akai Sys. I still like to sample sounds the old fashioned way. As far as the 4000 being buggy,maybe you expected too much out of the machine. I have gigs of sounds either I sampled or from cd rom,and I've never had a problem. But oh well it's not for everyone. Good luck on your next purchase.
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By krush groove Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:59 am
Same here......I have had my 4000 for a year or two and never had the urge to use akysys!.......I have downloaded it just to get a preview but that was it.....I uninstalled it!
By LabWorkz Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:28 am
mozzy4k wrote:Guys, I am very sad. I shipped my MPC back.

I hadn't been this excited about a new piece of gear in a long time...


The issues I had after only having it 3 days... I could not take it any longer.

I know with anything there has to be the expectation of bugs or shortfalls of the system. Given that, I looked past most of them.

(Most reasons I got from sellers on E-bay as to the reason they were selling... "The thing is just to buggy or complicated.")

But I can't spend approx 2500$ on a device and not be able to integrate it with my PC.

For what I am trying to do, it is CRITICAL that I be able to use the MPC with my PC and it be STABLE
.
AKsys is just entirely to buggy.

Now if this was the only thing I had to make music. It would be GREAT. A friend of mine has a 2000 model. He loves it. That's all he has and he is able to do some cool things with it.

This forum is an invaluable tool and it was starting to feel like family to me.

Thank you very much to everyone that took the time to answer, confirm or explain the questions I had with my MPC.



~I thought the new os fixed most of the 4k problems! Im sorry to hear that u sent the 4k back. :shock: I hear the 4k is a beast maybe u didnt give it enough time! :? Hope u get a mpc u like that fits u! :wink:
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By ikke Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:50 am
Maybe try an MV now ;)
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By Reveal Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:33 am
descry wrote:dunno bout you, the way im using aksys is perfectly fine. everything works well for me.



2nd that,

And OS 1.51 isnt "to buggy" and ive never had problems doing my thing.

ya sure this wasnt why ak.sys kept crashing....lol
http://web.archive.org/web/200304090938 ... ingle.html


good luck in the future':wink:'
Last edited by Reveal on Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:43 am, edited 1 time in total.

By blackrome Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:43 am
My Aksys is rock solid with XP.

How could you give a machine with so much to learn 3 days.

Most stores give you 45 days to determine if you want to keep a machine.

I would have sent my Fantom XR back if that was the case.

It took me a week to get the X editor ( It's like Aksys) to work.

I even crashed my OS trying to install it.

Talking about pissed.

But two months later I have found the synth engine and sampler to be ridiculous.

3 days. I don't know about that one.

By blackrome Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:46 am
Yeah. I'm starting to think this is the problem with his MPC-Aksys.

Funny
http://web.archive.org/web/200304090938 ... ingle.html




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By misterv Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:00 pm
yo AK.Sys is real buggy and there a re a few basic things that are not implemented (like a copy/paste button, everything has to be dragged to work)

but the 4000 with 1.51 works perfectly fine for me

maybe 3 days is too short a period to really understand how it works, I think you should have kept it longer...
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By Cheech Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:11 pm
3 days :shock:
It probably takes like three days to even read the manual..

No but seriously, i think you should keep it for like at least a week or two before making that decision. I have the XL so I don't know that much about the 4k tho but still..

Whatever you decide to do, good luck!
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By Blue Haze Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:43 pm
I had my 4000 for a year come Aug04 and a 2000XL before that. Maybe if you are still incline to use a MPC try your production out with a MPC 1000. It a basic model and its easier to work with a computer for transferring data. And keep your head up who knows you may be back here next year after you got some experience under your belt. This was a great experience to learn from and built with others. For me the 4000 is a great machine, but I REALLY DIDN`T START TO MASTER IT UNTIL JAN of this year through practice, practice, and self study about all the information I didn`t know.

In the beginning I bought a professional machine, but I wasn`t at the experience level I needed to be to use it. It took a lot of patience and perservance to built my skill up enough to use it decently.

As Cheech says whatever you decide to do, do it well. :D
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By Mohammed Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:55 pm
Got any idea what you will buy now???