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By renegadebliss Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:51 pm
Coz wrote:Also, this machine is going to be around a $1000 which makes it tougher for them. Whoever mentioned $350 is living in the clouds.


I thought they were telling everyone at NAMM that the Suggested Retail Price would be $1500...
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By Fung45 Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:33 pm
Don't get me wrong I wasn't comparing the Monome and the Beat Thang in terms of functions or purpose, but rather that they are both being made by independent companies. The makers of Monome compete with the likes of Akai/Roland etc. and do it successfully(2+ year waiting list), why do people doubt the Beat Kangz can do the same? If the market is there, the product will do well, and I definitely think there is a market, especially 12-20 years olds in the southern United States. If they play their cards right and market this thing properly(endorsements etc.) they could do well for themselves.
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By mr_debauch Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:26 pm
Fung45 wrote:Don't get me wrong I wasn't comparing the Monome and the Beat Thang in terms of functions or purpose, but rather that they are both being made by independent companies. The makers of Monome compete with the likes of Akai/Roland etc. and do it successfully(2+ year waiting list), why do people doubt the Beat Kangz can do the same? If the market is there, the product will do well, and I definitely think there is a market, especially 12-20 years olds in the southern United States. If they play their cards right and market this thing properly(endorsements etc.) they could do well for themselves.



Especially since we seem to be getting more support from them on their product that is not even out yet then akai gives us on their half a dozen MPCs. lol
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By jaem Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:46 pm
Fung45 wrote:The makers of Monome compete with the likes of Akai/Roland etc. and do it successfully(2+ year waiting list), why do people doubt the Beat Kangz can do the same?



u would need the actual numbers, not just ppl on youtube to verify this assumption
By _Stilo_ Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:10 pm
Fung45 wrote:The makers of Monome compete with the likes of Akai/Roland etc. and do it successfully(2+ year waiting list), why do people doubt the Beat Kangz can do the same?

Because they are not claiming to just assemble some buttons, a casing and MIDI interface, but a full-blown workstation out of nothing. And I don't buy that. Unless, well....they sell it at like $3000, that would make sense maybe.
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By mr_debauch Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:22 pm
_Stilo_ wrote:
Fung45 wrote:The makers of Monome compete with the likes of Akai/Roland etc. and do it successfully(2+ year waiting list), why do people doubt the Beat Kangz can do the same?

Because they are not claiming to just assemble some buttons, a casing and MIDI interface, but a full-blown workstation out of nothing. And I don't buy that. Unless, well....they sell it at like $3000, that would make sense maybe.



this isn't 1984.. parts dont cost millions of dollars to design anymore... most of the parts can be bought already made... all they have to design is a mainboard to structure it all together.
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By jaem Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:37 pm
mr_debauch wrote:this isn't 1984.. parts dont cost millions of dollars to design anymore... most of the parts can be bought already made... all they have to design is a mainboard to structure it all together.



is this based on experience or assumption?

chassis molds are not cheap, neither are custom PCBs, nor is software/OS development

not that I know anything...lol
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By mr_debauch Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:45 pm
jaem wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:this isn't 1984.. parts dont cost millions of dollars to design anymore... most of the parts can be bought already made... all they have to design is a mainboard to structure it all together.



is this based on experience or assumption?

chassis molds are not cheap, neither are custom PCBs, nor is software/OS development

not that I know anything...lol



Well seeming that I am in IT field now, and I worked in mold injection.. a bit of both. The only things they need to design and manufacture are parts that are original to that machine.. such as the main board, the case and body, and maybe the buttons and knobs if they are custom but they probably aren't. The CPU, they wont be designing themselves, the ram, sockets, lights, ports, cables, and all that other stuff is already existing...
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By Fung45 Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:26 am
jaem wrote:the actual numbers,

monome.org wrote:sixty four: 200 units scheduled for january 23, 2009

$500 plus shipping (northamerica $16, international $86)

100 units were introduced in january 2008. they sold in 2 minutes. we promptly sold an additional 100 units. a second edition of 200 was produced in october 2008.

Sorry about the assumption/exaggeration/whatever you wanna call it. I didn't get my info from youtube I just remember there was a time when Monomes were prettymuch impossible to get. Either way my comparison still stands.
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By mr_debauch Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:52 am
you know what would have been neat...

It would have been cool if it were possible to connect a bluetooth adapter to send wireless signals to a computer or outboard accessories such as that drumkit etc...

bluetooth is limited to around 30 feet but it is still plenty and it is a pretty standard type of wireless connection so maybe it would be possible to do some neat stuff with that.

So far I like where this machine is going.