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By four eyes Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:22 am
i dont use midi for anything other than syncing tracks into their proper time when im recording into my 16 track. other than that i dont find it necessary for what i do. i have a minimalist approach.
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By dabmeister Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:38 am
selecta jo wrote:@dabmeister: have a look at this video of the new moog pedal http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/02/03/wnamm09-moog-multipedal-refresher/. i bet most people who are using midi in an "mpc-some modules-daw" fashion everyday and gain good results, and even know some tricks within the midi specifications, haven´t heard half of the things the guy in the video refers to. and that is just midi... add some vc stuff and then make use of some clever max/msp programing there are really lots of possibilities.

for instance when i record i like to track every instrument i record not only on audio but whenever possible also capture midi data of the performance, so i can change or replace or add things later. sometimes i use the midi data of a performance to trigger effects at certain points. sometimes i need a couple of variations fast and midi lets me edit easily without the need to play and record every one. with midi i can use every keyboard in my room as a controler for everything (that accepts midi data).

limitations are the amount of things one can do at a time and the useful number of devices in midi chains before the lag hits the performance.

peace jo


Yeah jo, this is a real nice multi purpose pedal, I'm impressed...good look! :) It's got a nice hookup matrix and the fact that it itself is a analog instrument w/daw support and some, there's all kinds of possibilities.

Nah but what dude was elaborating on was you could control the LFO via midi clock either by the daw or from the unit itself.

This usually gives the effect the ability to lock with your beat which can bring some creative ideas to surface.
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By trunk Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:33 pm
selecta jo wrote:@trunk: start here: http://www.tweakheadz.com/how_to_get_started_with_midi.html and then proceed to other chapters involving midi on that page. that should cover all the basics - come back with specific questions if you come to the conclusion that midi might save your life... 8)

peace jo


jo,

Great read, bookmark-worthy. I was missing the whole second half of the equation from the computer to the MIDI device--that knowledge alone makes the time well spent! But, since I don't have a MIDI synth, just a keyboard for triggering other sounds (the Oxygen 8), I doubt I'd use MIDI much in the way most people do. I'm currently using a pretty old-school software program as well, so I don't know if editing the MIDI in the box would open up a world of possibilities for me. I think the most intriguing idea, given my current setup, is to use MIDI to trigger effects and automation. In fact I've done this before in Ableton and was pretty disappointed with the digital artifacts every time I tweaked a knob to trigger an effect. Very clunky. Maybe that's something that's been fixed with newer editions of Ableton but I've heard that it hasn't. Also, having 20,000+ sounds at your disposal sounds like a bad idea. I'm much happier sampling my own playing from a real instrument and then tweaking it inside the MPC.

It's been interesting.
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By Jacpot Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:47 pm
All I use midi for is to sync tracks to daw for tracking. And to sync my keyboards and mpc. THats about it right now
By deegood Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:53 pm
Jacpot wrote:All I use midi for is to sync tracks to daw for tracking. And to sync my keyboards and mpc. THats about it right now

Me 2. I used to hate midi when i didn't fully understand it but i now see the benefits and appreciate it's existence. really
By Nothingless1987 Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:01 am
i got my mp synced to my 8 track, then the mp controls the sp which runs thru the input thru. nice and simple.
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By jonestown massacre Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:45 pm
But, since I don't have a MIDI synth, just a keyboard for triggering other sounds (the Oxygen 8),



If you wanted to, you could hook up the oxygen to the mp via midi, record a drum pattern with the pads, then use the oxygen to play melodies/bass samples in the mp......... pads for riddims, keys for melodies!

cc's are midi control change numbers; these numbers correspond to midi notes(each mp pad has a midi note #), variations in velocity, duration of key/pad presses, parameter values, etc. You assign cc #'s to parameters on the midi keyboard/mpc and you can control those parameters remotely with the other device.....