Would it be possible for Akai to make 512MB RAM expansion?

AWW_NAWW wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:

So since you are using an MPC 4000 with 512 MB, why don't you load up a bunch of files until your have no more memory left. Then save these files to the hard drive in its own folder. Time this process. Restart your MPC 4000 and reload the folder you just created. Time this process. Then report back with the results. I would like to know how fast the MPC 4000 can do these tasks. I already wrote about the performance of the 5K. Now let's see how good you are with math. If it takes 5 to 6 minutes to load 192 MB of samples (MPC 5K), how long would it take to load 512 MB of samples? Once you get the answer to that equation, you will start to see what I mean.

509MB = 9min 37sec

I take this number is from the MPC 4000 right? Because you wouldn't get that answer from the equation I gave you above

So lets say that it takes 10 minutes to load all those samples and keygroups. When you start to erase memory and reload samples...that is a lot of time being wasted. You can easily have giga bytes of samples in a fraction of that time using a software sampler MIDI'd to your MPC (again, the reason for all those MIDI outs and the reason why we can send MIDI CC messages via Q-links). Don't like computers, they have VST players on the market that are computers but look and peform like sound modules. If that is still not your cup of tea, then simply use one of the numerous sound modules or keyboards available. All of these options are much better than waiting 10 minutes to load some files.

IT WOULDN'T BOTHER ME IF YOU GUYS DEBATING ABOUT SOMETHING MORE REAL, LET ME JUST SAY THIS SO I CAN GO TO BED.MPC 4000 IS NOT BUILD LIKE MPC 5000 THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT MACHINES JUST LIKE PC YOU BOUGHT 3 YEARS AGO AND THE ONE THAT JUST CAME OUT,THE ONE THAT JUST CAME OUT IT HAS 2 QUAD PROCESSOR AND SOME OTHER SHIT AS WE KNOW.SAME WITH MPC 5000, IT DEPENDS HOW MOTHERBOARD IS BUILD FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO EXPEND RAM.ALSO IT DEPENDS WHAT KIND OF KEYGROUP THEY GOING TO INCLUDE IN OS 2 IS IT GOING TO BE SAME EXACT LIKE ON 4K OR THEY MODIFIED TO FIT 5K RAM NEEDS.

EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD NIGHT I FUK WITH YALL IN A MONTH GOTTA HIT THIS TOUR.

NO LOST LOVE

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Askia Shaheed wrote:

Don't like computers, they have VST players on the market that are computers but look and peform like sound modules. If that is still not your cup of tea, then simply use one of the numerous sound modules or keyboards available. All of these options are much better than waiting 10 minutes to load some files.

The problem still lies in a computer being a sh*tty place to work and create.
The new Akai controller for LIVE was born from just this problem.
The new hardware changes from Open Labs from the same problem.
It's just the reality that's coming to light.
The computer offers unbelievable options but lacks the interface to allow you to make use of them.

ToOxSicK wrote:.ALSO IT DEPENDS WHAT KIND OF KEYGROUP THEY GOING TO INCLUDE IN OS 2 IS IT GOING TO BE SAME EXACT LIKE ON 4K OR THEY MODIFIED TO FIT 5K RAM NEEDS.

Sovereign wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:

Don't like computers, they have VST players on the market that are computers but look and peform like sound modules. If that is still not your cup of tea, then simply use one of the numerous sound modules or keyboards available. All of these options are much better than waiting 10 minutes to load some files.

The problem still lies in a computer being a sh*tty place to work and create.
The new Akai controller for LIVE was born from just this problem.
The new hardware changes from Open Labs from the same problem.
It's just the reality that's coming to light.
The computer offers unbelievable options but lacks the interface to allow you to make use of them.

The MPC is the interface and where you work and create. The computer is there just for sounds. Turn off your monitor and pretend it is not there.

The MPC is the interface and where you work and create. The computer is there just for sounds. Turn off your monitor and pretend it is not there.

Actually, this is what I was planning to do with the Maschine (considering buying this), I can take the USB cable to another point at my room, I only have to keep the computer running

There is two spots on the MPC 5000 for memory. The untold one is called an "Expansion SDRAM" and the other is the one everyone is aware of.

two words versatility and mobility.
This is what I get out of the 4k when I keep all of my sound contained within the unit its self. What makes the MPC different in work flow from a computer in my opinion it the ability to access up to over a hundred sequences at the turn of a dial. I my self can work on around 15 or 20 songs at a time going back and forwards and I dont like to use the sames sound,samples, or multies in everysong I make. I did that with my mpc2k but I also had a Proteus 2k along with it. the computer you have to close that project and open another onther one be it old or new My workflow now lets me access not only the proteus sounds but about fifteen other modules and keyboards on on my 4ks harddrive. and If I take my 4k to another studio like I did when I was in school I dont have to worry about them having this vst or the same daw that I work on. All I need to dois patch in cables and Im off.

Askia Shaheed wrote:

Sovereign wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:

Don't like computers, they have VST players on the market that are computers but look and peform like sound modules. If that is still not your cup of tea, then simply use one of the numerous sound modules or keyboards available. All of these options are much better than waiting 10 minutes to load some files.

The problem still lies in a computer being a sh*tty place to work and create.
The new Akai controller for LIVE was born from just this problem.
The new hardware changes from Open Labs from the same problem.
It's just the reality that's coming to light.
The computer offers unbelievable options but lacks the interface to allow you to make use of them.

The MPC is the interface and where you work and create. The computer is there just for sounds. Turn off your monitor and pretend it is not there.

not really making any sense trying to say you can use vst's without interfacing with the computer.
how would edit sounds?
how would assign parameters?you would still lack effective means to interact with the software.

AWW_NAWW wrote:two words versatility and mobility.
This is what I get out of the 4k when I keep all of my sound contained within the unit its self. What makes the MPC different in work flow from a computer in my opinion it the ability to access up to over a hundred sequences at the turn of a dial. I my self can work on around 15 or 20 songs at a time going back and forwards and I dont like to use the sames sound,samples, or multies in everysong I make. I did that with my mpc2k but I also had a Proteus 2k along with it. the computer you have to close that project and open another onther one be it old or new My workflow now lets me access not only the proteus sounds but about fifteen other modules and keyboards on on my 4ks harddrive. and If I take my 4k to another studio like I did when I was in school I dont have to worry about them having this vst or the same daw that I work on. All I need to do is patch in cables and Im off.

The MPC 4000 is far from being a mobile unit. Your a woman..you can't carry that sh!t Laptops and portable interfaces are exactly what many working musicians, producers, and DJs use today. The days of carrying crates of records to a gig are long gone. All your sounds and VSTs are neatly kept on your laptops hard drive.

So you say with a computer, you have to close a project and open another one? Not if you are using something like Reason 4 that you can put on a laptop. And you don't kill 10 minutes in the process loading and saving sounds... 512 MB of sounds. Since you don't like using the same sounds, samples, and multis in every song...while you are trying to make those 15 or 20 songs, you just wasted 1 or more hours.

Anyway....the talk of disliking computers is funny from an MPC 4000 perspective since many of you use Aksys. I think you could use something like Roland's Sonic Cell if you don't like computers. It is the size/weight of the MPC 500. You can even get the V Machine, which is extremely portable.

I prefer hardware for the simple fact that computers crash alot more than hardware. And plus I enjoy the physical feel of making my drums by banging them out and it has a nostalgia about it like shit this is like all the legends made them classics... Why change what was the feel of the era of that real hip hop. I dont down computer using producers...Use whatever works for you to make heat. I just love the hardware...

mister_sosa74 wrote:I dont down computer using producers...Use whatever works for you to make heat. I just love the hardware...

and thats basically it for me I have a computer and I have a shit load of vsts and vstis on it but working within this domain is what works for me. I'm just not feelin that mouse shit and thats mainly what I do alot of when Im using the computer. and not to for get to say this but I dont load up a full 512mb everytime I load up my MPC. I use the extra ram as space to load and audition bank of different multi-samples that I have. once I have the the ones I like out of that group I tag the ones I dont wont and delete those programs and head over to the global page and purge any unused samples giving me a lot of my space back to repeat the process again if I feel the need for it.
Might seem like a lot of work and drawn out but it works well for my creative process

^^^
Next time I hear you say a word about Aksys, I got jokes for you It sounds like you need to retire your MPC and get a keyboard workstation.

Askia Shaheed wrote:^^^
Next time I hear you say a word about Aksys, I got jokes for you It sounds like you need to retire your MPC and get a keyboard workstation.

Nahh it soundslike I need to keep doin what the **** I've been doin.
Why get one keyboard station when you can have em all??

AWW_NAWW wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:^^^
Next time I hear you say a word about Aksys, I got jokes for you It sounds like you need to retire your MPC and get a keyboard workstation.

Nahh it soundslike I need to keep doin what the **** I've been doin.
Why get one keyboard station when you can have em all??

They are just samples. The same samples you can load into a keyboard workstations that have 1GB of sample memory to play with. But keep doing what you are doing.