Ain't the 4000 outdated?

the mpc4000 can sample at 96khz but i dont think that the mpc5000 can do that.

DJ ALX wrote:the mpc4000 can sample at 96khz but i dont think that the mpc5000 can do that.

it can't. but it can load and read those files...

well yea it can, but it would be usefull if it could sample too.

Yeah the 4000 is outdated and so is the Tr808, Tr909, Moog synths, Tec 1200's, Fender Strats, Neve circuitry, Sp 12's, Neumann mics, vinyl records. Get the picture?

Kd wrote:Yeah the 4000 is outdated and so is the Tr808, Tr909, Moog synths, Tec 1200's, Fender Strats, Neve circuitry, Sp 12's, Neumann mics, vinyl records. Get the picture?

lol

so is analog tape machines (wish i had one though) and so is my mpc60 that keeps popping hot slammin beats, so is my grimey ensoniq eps whos sound i cannot find elsewhere and so is my nice and blurry yamaha spx90 and so on and so on.

man, dont look at whats outdated.

what hip hop era do you enjoy listening to?

if you dont listen to outdated stuff then you should not listen to stuff more than 6 months old.

gaag wrote:I would love to invest in a gear I really can GROW ON.. But why spend hours and hours to learn a manual for the 4000, when its being "rejected" by akai?

Why don't go for the 5000? And it will probably hold its price for many more years to come..


Is it not smarter to learn the "new technology" with the new possibilities..?


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Well, if you look at how things are going, the 4000 has held it's price much better then the 2500 or 1000 did.....
so I wouldn't bet on the 5000 holding it's price for very long. If your more worried about how much it will
sell for, I would advise investing in an Oberheim 4 Voice or a Fenix Modular. Those are going up in value not decreasing
like all MPC's do over time.

If your more worried about what the products can do, your posting doesn't indicate. Why do you even need an MPC?
That's probably your first question to tackle, before which MPC.

For reference, my TR 808 seems to stand pretty good on it's own and I wouldn't call that New Technology.

Every Musician should live by this creed:
It's more important what you DO with what you have, then what you have/want can do

diegoeskryptic wrote:

DJ ALX wrote:the mpc4000 can sample at 96khz but i dont think that the mpc5000 can do that.

it can't. but it can load and read those files...

Yea. it can load and "read" those files... Are you SURE that its' playing those at 24bit/96khz or is it converting it to the
sample rate that is supported by the machine? If it's converting it, then it's playing it those rates, so any benefits are lost.
It just allows you to load it into your machine. A quick batch job on SoundForge does the same thing...


Cheers,
Dave

Hey, a bit offtopic but 96kHz means it is 96,000 sample units (?) per second. I mean when you go to sample/trim then one second is equal to 96,000 points ?

shimmyshimmy wrote:Hey, a bit offtopic but 96kHz means it is 96,000 sample units (?) per second. I mean when you go to sample/trim then one second is equal to 96,000 points ?

havnt used it but i think it will be like that.

or if you sample with 10ms pre recording time on the mpc2k your sample starts at 441 (which is 1/100 of 44100) so i think that on the mpc4k with 10ms it will start at 960.

sorry for the off topic remark

interesting fact

In spain This year more record's where sold then CDS, and due to this surprise big companies are thinkin about selling records again in the market

so scratch that off the out of date list

J-tawn wrote:sorry for the off topic remark

interesting fact

In spain This year more record's where sold then CDS, and due to this surprise big companies are thinkin about selling records again in the market

so scratch that off the out of date list

Word. The two surviving formats will be mp3 (or similar mobile format) and vinyl. mp3 will be the last nail on CD's coffin.

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If you want something that is not outdated you can sure go for the Linn Drum II.
It hasnt been out yet so Its not outdated.

CDs are still the most convenient way to legally obtain an entire release in a lossless format, complete with artwork and liner notes.

A lot of CDs I own have some awesome liners that I would probably never even look at on a screen.

People thought for sure vinyl would be dead when CDs came around, but there's a market for it. There's always going to be a market for people who want a real, tangible product in a digital, lossless format just like there's analog vinyl buyers who want the same.

Just because teenagers listening to throwaway Hip-Hop tracks don't care about CDs doesn't mean much.

thats why i read manuals from the dedicated website before i buy something. Therefore I wont have to spend ours figuring the damn thing out. But still use the manual to reference if i get lost. Im getting a 4000 soon and im readin the manuel, doesnt seem so complicated so far. I love that it has a piano roll editor u can move notes around....

I don't think its out dated..

You can buy 2009 sample CD's load them up and there you go the latest sounds..

Takes a lot of strain off your CPU as well.

renegadebliss wrote:

diegoeskryptic wrote:

DJ ALX wrote:the mpc4000 can sample at 96khz but i dont think that the mpc5000 can do that.

it can't. but it can load and read those files...

Yea. it can load and "read" those files... Are you SURE that its' playing those at 24bit/96khz or is it converting it to the
sample rate that is supported by the machine? If it's converting it, then it's playing it those rates, so any benefits are lost.
It just allows you to load it into your machine. A quick batch job on SoundForge does the same thing...


Cheers,
Dave

The MPC 5000 will load a 24bit/96khz samole but will convert it to a 16bit/96khz sample.