How to compress and EQ like Dilla or Madlib?

7 1 4 Beats wrote:How to compress and EQ like Dilla or Madlib? More like Dave Cooley.

This what Cooley used most of the time.
Crane Song STC-8 compressor/limiter

Yes indeed:

Although Madlib tracked and mixed almost all of The Further Adventures of Lord Quas using only a Boss SP-303 Dr. Sample and a Roland VS-1680 digital workstation, the setup didn't always satisfy the sound he had in his head. For that, he turned to engineer Dave Cooley. "Madlib likes to shoot from the hip," Cooley says, "so sometimes it's a deliberate and intentional choice on his part to go with the most rough-hewn version of a mix he can get. But if he and Wolf want to take a stab at making the track boom a little bit more in certain places, that's where I come in."

After patiently loading Madlib's original tracks from the VS-1680 into a Digidesign Pro Tools|HD system, Cooley employs a number of crafty but straightforward tricks to create a wider stereo feel for virtually any monosynth line, sample or vocal that Madlib can come up with. Once the tracks have been tweaked, a Crane Song STC-8 compressor/limiter---which Cooley describes as "a pretty deep box that's not as snappy as an SSL but can be aggressive without 'coloring' the mix too much"---acts as the main piece of outboard gear in the mixdown and mastering phases.

What's the closest VST equivalent to this then? The classic URS stuff?

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plain and simple:

Dilla and Madlib threads sucks! But wait ......no no no. Premier, Pete Rock and Dre Threads suck too.

There are more than enogh threads to read about their stuff, how they work, what they use etc. Just READ and use scroogle (instead of "big brother" google)


peace

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there is a VST called the Dillalizer and it makes an instand dilla beat. it has one button "Make Beat"

Heartbeat wrote:there is a VST called the Dillalizer and it makes an instand dilla beat. it has one button "Make Beat"

I have that. It rules.

objektivone wrote:

Heartbeat wrote:there is a VST called the Dillalizer and it makes an instand dilla beat. it has one button "Make Beat"

I have that. It rules.

Is that the one that connects to an online server that is wired with dilla's kryofrozen brain to process the freshness level when you click "make beat" ?

why u guys wanna be like these other cats...u get no where tryn to jock...jus do you

mr_debauch wrote:

objektivone wrote:

Heartbeat wrote:there is a VST called the Dillalizer and it makes an instand dilla beat. it has one button "Make Beat"

I have that. It rules.

Is that the one that connects to an online server that is wired with dilla's kryofrozen brain to process the freshness level when you click "make beat" ?

No. I must have got the bootleg version.

But foreal. Whenever people ask these questions everyone is like "Why you wanna do that, blah blah, do you and nobody else" but honestly the best way to learn is to copy. Then once you do that you take bits and pieces and make you. NOBODY FRONT AND DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DON'T SIT THERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOUR FAVORITE SONGS WERE MADE AND THEN TRY TO COPY THEM. I have sat there wondering how Dilla or Shadow or whoever made their beats and copied them. That doesn't mean I sell them or use them or release them, but sometimes I even cop the same samples and try to recreate the track exactly.

Why not? That is how you learn.

That is how you get skill, learn techniques, and get ideas... also in the process of copying you stumbled upon your own things.

madlib's production is not really known for its eq and compression prowess, so this question is kinda retarded.

though he has his own sound sample/production wise, i've never really heard anybody say "oh madlib's drums sound sick i wonder how he makes em sound like that"

do you.

objektivone wrote:

mr_debauch wrote:No. I must have got the bootleg version.

But foreal. Whenever people ask these questions everyone is like "Why you wanna do that, blah blah, do you and nobody else" but honestly the best way to learn is to copy. Then once you do that you take bits and pieces and make you. NOBODY FRONT AND DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DON'T SIT THERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOUR FAVORITE SONGS WERE MADE AND THEN TRY TO COPY THEM. I have sat there wondering how Dilla or Shadow or whoever made their beats and copied them. That doesn't mean I sell them or use them or release them, but sometimes I even cop the same samples and try to recreate the track exactly.

Why not? That is how you learn.

That is how you get skill, learn techniques, and get ideas... also in the process of copying you stumbled upon your own things.

Thats true but there is a difference between sitting down, listen carefully, analyzing, copying

and

asking forum members WHAT GEAR, PLUGS, SAMPLES DID XY USE.

Audio Engeneering, Mixing is nothing that can be learned in a week by asking forum members. People need to experiment and get their own experience. If they travell that path they will automaticly come to the points were it goes like "aaaaaaahhhh thats how XY do that sound". And they exactly comprehend how its done and will never forget it and can use this experience for further steps.

peace

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thanks in advance

I have this instrumental mixtape on vinyl with a few Dilla instrumentals. They came straight out of the mp. No mixing or fx. His tracks on there sound exactly the same as almost any other (advanced) beatmaker.

You know, I was listening to a gangstarr track a few years ago when I first got into recording and doing my own makeshift mixdowns... anyways I was suprized to notice that they slapped a delay on guru's voice for the entire track.... most people dont notice that kinda stuff but people who make music pay attention a little bit more. Once I noticed it, it got on my nerves.

objektivone wrote:But foreal. Whenever people ask these questions everyone is like "Why you wanna do that, blah blah, do you and nobody else" but honestly the best way to learn is to copy. Then once you do that you take bits and pieces and make you. NOBODY FRONT AND DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DON'T SIT THERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOUR FAVORITE SONGS WERE MADE AND THEN TRY TO COPY THEM. I have sat there wondering how Dilla or Shadow or whoever made their beats and copied them. That doesn't mean I sell them or use them or release them, but sometimes I even cop the same samples and try to recreate the track exactly.

Why not? That is how you learn.

That is how you get skill, learn techniques, and get ideas... also in the process of copying you stumbled upon your own things.

You have a very valid point, still I say even though you will disagree, that your stuff in the end will sound like that certain artist. One of my favourite artists for instance, James Stinson (also know for Drexciya) never listend to other music, not even the radio... he just locked himself in his studio, you will probally not agree with me but his music has been one most original takes on electronic music I ever heared. If you look it up remember most of that stuff is over 10 years old now.

I am not saying that we all should stop listening to music am just saying that the above is not always the case.

hahaha how to sound like madlb/dilla??? honestly dude they prob used minimal compression like YOUR SUPPOSED TO! Too much sounds bland and shitty no matter what kind of compressor it is. learn how to actually use a compressor and which ones sound good.