How the hell.......

Alryte ppl. Ive been trying to figure out how to do this time stretching thing on this lil fella. Ok I use Recycle to chop my sh*t up. And i understand the concept of time stretching 1 2 4 bars ect.. but How can I stretch just one slice? I cant figure this out for the life of me. I do it in Recycle & it just seems like it echos & thats about it.

No? Nobody can reply. Nobody? Really?

you only waited 2 hours for a reply bro,,,some of my questions dont get a reply for a couple days...but are you using a preset or are u adjusting it yourself??

if using a preset,try doing it manually instead..keep your values at 100 and adjust 1 point at a time till you get desired effect!!

It's been about 12 hrs not 2 but anyway. Just a single sliced sample from vinyl. Say just a guitar hit. Stretch it out to "fill" a bar. I dont know if im explaining it ryte but. It makes scense if you hear what im trying to do. I'm not looking to extend or slow down a 2 bar loop. I'm looking to extend or slow down just a single slice without havint to change the pitch.

my bad,anyhow,,,do you mean just a part of a sample or a part of a loop??

It's all good mayn. Just the sample. . . . Say I slice my loop into 12 different parts ryte, I want to extend my guitar slice to fill a bar, how would i extend just that one slice? I see people extending/shortening 2/4 bar loops but i want to extend just that one slice without changing the pitch really. Bcuz i know how i want my intro to sound. So once i turned the "TUNING" down for that one slice to extend to fill the bar it throws the whole beat off.

have u allready tried note variation?

ok nevermind the note viriation,,i think im having trouble understanding???

do you want to stretch the whole sample but only once

or do you want to stretch just part of the sample?



what if you reverb it or throw an echo on it to lengthen it....dude i work with the 2000xl and its simple on that,but i have a 500 on the way and i already have the manual so i been doing some research but from what i see,people say the 500 isnt as simple,,so im kinda stuck here also,,

Yea man. Just the one sample slice. I slice up a 2 bar loop into 12 or 16 parts (depending on my mood) And i want to extend 2 or maybe 3 parts. I dunno i dont know if this function exsist. I'm not just talkin about stretching it on the MPC i mean in general, i use Recycle too & thats where i usually do all my main editing

Yo! the strech function in recycle is not time streching, it's just "echo", as you said, so your chop wont cut off too drastically. If you want real time streching you need to do it on the MPC (go in trim mode to strech), or you can do it on your computer with plugins like melodyne or in a daw like protools, logic.
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Cot damn Recycle. I think i tried stretching it in my MPC500 a while back, but it seemed to complex. I think it's in the "MPC Bible" I'll trouble shoot some more but if anyone can dish out some steps & recomendations please let loose wit the sh*t

Time streching on the MPC is not that complex. Select your sample, it will ask you for your original sample tempo if you don't know or don't care leave it to 100bpm then you set the new tempo, you want to make it longer set it to a lower tempo, if you want to make it shorter raise the new tempo. One thing that can be confusing is the time strech presets, it's just a way to maximise the time streching algorythme, you find a preset that is close to your sample in term of frequency.

I saw your question last night, but I didn't really understand what you where getting at so I didn't respond. Unfortunately I'm still not sure I understand what your going for.

If you've got a 1 bar guitar hit, and you want it to spread over 4 bars, but by stretching it without changing the tone and without cascading it with overlapping multi hits, you would want to reduce the BPM.

When using Timestretch in the 500, you set a bpm for the original sound that you want to stretch ( it doesn't matter what the value is, its only relative to the stretched result), then you choose the target BPM.

So if you set you original bpm at 130, and your target at 65 it will stretch the sample twice as long (or something like that, it'll be longer).

But stretching a sample too far can distort it. So you'd have to experiment to see how far you can stretch it without mangling the sound. And you also have to experiment with the various preset algorithms to get the best result.

Time stretching on the 500 can be kind of shooting in the dark as far as results, you just have to fool around with it for awhile.

But if I'm understanding what your trying to do, It sounds to me like you'd be better off overlapping multi-hits and maybe putting some echo on it to make it sound like a constant tone.
You could even resample that layered noise as a new sample to free up your effects again.