Reviews and questions about the entry-level MPC500
By Emilie Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:34 am
Nope, but i'm running on a 32gig right now. The machine gets slower at loading/saving when you go over the limit of 2gig. From there it gets slower and slower. I reccomend 8x2gig cards instead.
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By inflict3 Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:43 am
oh really!? you can run bigger cards, it just runs slower? i did not know this
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By robthom Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:28 pm
I'm running a 4 right now. Its plenty quick enough and no data loss so far. I would like to try something bigger next time but they seem to get exponentially more expensive when you go up. I think the 8 I had my eye on was 40 bucks.

30 bucks for that 16 seems like a good price. If it did turn out to be just too slow to use as a main card, it would at least be great as a second storage card. Easy to keep track of and carry with mobs of room.
Also the thing that makes them slower in addition to the larger size is the seek time. Its kind of hard to figure out exactly what the seek time on different brands are because they seem to measure them differently. But if you read some reviews on amazon the camera buffs will give you some good info. Like some cards are quicker at some things like saving a pic and resetting for another one, but much slower at transferring to a PC.
Read some reviews on amazon.
If its a cf1 compatible the price wouldn't be as great of a deal obviously (still good though for all that storage IMO). Try to make sure its a cf2 compatible.

BTW: I wonder what would happen if you put a cf3 in it?
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By noramoss Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:04 pm
when you buy a larger card, just make sure it has 15mbps or more. It's not that the mpc loads slower it's that you have a slower card. The card is where the speed is... you hear the saying it's not the size of the gun, it's the type of bullet that you use... same thing. I rock with 2gig sandisk now with 15mbps which is great. imma jump on that 4 as long as it has 15mbps or better.
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By robthom Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:45 pm
The thing is a sandisk 16 is a small fortune!
But the kingstons measure different.
Not sure how a 133X kingston compares to 15 MBS sandisk. Thats why I suggested reading the reviews.
In fact I'm not even sure that Kingston uses the cf1-2-3 standard?
Still sounds like good storage for the price IMO, even if you dont use it as your "working" card.
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By CHARLIEPLATNUM Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:40 pm
Got it, and it works good. FYI, when you first install the card into the 500.....it seems to run real slow when you make a command, once you finally get to the format screen and format the card....it works fine.

Anybody know how to check how much space is left on your CF cards in the 500?
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By Avene Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:27 pm
Just out of curiosity, what are you all putting on these cards? Huge sample libraries, multi layered drums, extra long 8 bar loops? I've got a 2gb card, and I'm nowhere near even using up 1/4 of that.

Even when I had the MPC4000, I remember buying a 120gb hard drive for it. But still, I never ended using more than 1gb, and most of that was filled with sound library sounds I never used.
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By CHARLIEPLATNUM Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:40 pm
Avene wrote:Just out of curiosity, what are you all putting on these cards? Huge sample libraries, multi layered drums, extra long 8 bar loops? I've got a 2gb card, and I'm nowhere near even using up 1/4 of that.

Even when I had the MPC4000, I remember buying a 120gb hard drive for it. But still, I never ended using more than 1gb, and most of that was filled with sound library sounds I never used.


I will be transfering all of the songs and sequences I did a while back from my MPC1000's hard drive(and all the misc CF cards I have laying around), as well as 8 or so gigs of samples....and the rest rest is space for saving new songs, samples, and sequences. Every thing will be centralized on one card.
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By CHARLIEPLATNUM Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:14 pm
Avene wrote:Ok cool. Sounds like a decent sized sound library.




I just dropped 6,000 + sound files of various breaks, loops, hits, and oneshots on the 16gig card and it only took up a little north of 4 gigs worth of space. So YEAH, I got good amount of room left, I just came across some BigPun accapellas so I'll drop a couple of those on there as well. As far as my library, I got two hardrives (250gig & a 160gig) full of sounds and rare music and accapellas.
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By CHARLIEPLATNUM Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:38 pm
robthom wrote:The thing is a sandisk 16 is a small fortune!
But the kingstons measure different.
Not sure how a 133X kingston compares to 15 MBS sandisk. Thats why I suggested reading the reviews.
In fact I'm not even sure that Kingston uses the cf1-2-3 standard?
Still sounds like good storage for the price IMO, even if you dont use it as your "working" card.


The Kingston (Elite Pro) 16gb 133x writes 20MBps and reads 25MBps. I just found a Transcend 32gb 300x that reads and write at 45MBps for $119.00....But I'm good with the 16, I don't use the 500 that much.
By kazakore Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:29 pm
robthom wrote:I'm running a 4 right now. Its plenty quick enough and no data loss so far. I would like to try something bigger next time but they seem to get exponentially more expensive when you go up. I think the 8 I had my eye on was 40 bucks.

30 bucks for that 16 seems like a good price. If it did turn out to be just too slow to use as a main card, it would at least be great as a second storage card. Easy to keep track of and carry with mobs of room.
Also the thing that makes them slower in addition to the larger size is the seek time. Its kind of hard to figure out exactly what the seek time on different brands are because they seem to measure them differently. But if you read some reviews on amazon the camera buffs will give you some good info. Like some cards are quicker at some things like saving a pic and resetting for another one, but much slower at transferring to a PC.
Read some reviews on amazon.
If its a cf1 compatible the price wouldn't be as great of a deal obviously (still good though for all that storage IMO). Try to make sure its a cf2 compatible.

BTW: I wonder what would happen if you put a cf3 in it?



Solid state drives have no moving parts and thus no seek time as such. It's not like a mechanical harddrive.

robthom wrote:The thing is a sandisk 16 is a small fortune!
But the kingstons measure different.
Not sure how a 133X kingston compares to 15 MBS sandisk. Thats why I suggested reading the reviews.
In fact I'm not even sure that Kingston uses the cf1-2-3 standard?
Still sounds like good storage for the price IMO, even if you dont use it as your "working" card.



Speed table.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_flash#Speed