Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs

By jrides Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:26 am
They are on Ebay all the time. Just keep your eyes open. Be patient.... you will find one.

By elmacaco Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:19 am
I really don't see why anyone would want one without the 60, a sequencer with a drum sampler saves you a midi connection, but hell it is a damn good sequencer, I ould get one if I found it really cheap just to frame it ;)

By mpc3000le Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:33 am
I have one.

It gets used.

They are a great addition to any setup that is MPC based.

IE: You use it as an additional sequencer to drive other bits of outboard with.

Where driving external gear via midi is concerned an MPC60 and ASQ10 are no different.

Were beat creation is concerned the MPC is the better option.

If triggering external gear via midi is your plan then either/or/both will be fine.

Rohan.

By elmacaco Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:04 am
Probably one of the best hardware midi sequencers in existence. Even modern shit doesn't give you 99 tracks!!!

But at the prices I've seen ($400) it seems like an extra hundred or two for a 60 would be a better buy, especially if you are going to upgrade the OS.

It is a cute little thing, and it would be handy as a dedicated over flow sequencer for CC's and Sysex that can slow your 60 down.

If you Don't mind Rohan, how do you use it in conjunction with an MPC? just clocked together, duplicate sequences or songs? Using two sequencers kinda baffles me from inexperience, how would it be sed with a 60 sequence that is a 20 step song of 8 bar sequences for instance?

Thanks.

By mpc3000le Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:39 am
Hmm... How do I use it.

I started out with the ASQ10 a LONG time before I obtained an MPC3000.

So... in the first instance it was.

ASQ10 > ENSONIQ KMX16 ( MIDI ROUTER PATCH BAY ).
ENSONIQ KMX16 > LOT OF STUFF.

Now... it often ends up as.

MPC3000

OUT A > STUFF
OUT B > STUFF
OUT C > STUFF
OUT D > STUFF

SMPTE OUT MPC3000 > ASQ10 SMPTE IN.

ASQ10

OUT A > STUFF
OUT B > STUFF
OUT C > STUFF
OUT D > STUFF

I just load the same sequences on both machines and route things around as I need.

Or ...

Some times I will use it to drive different sequences when performing live.

That way I can easily cross between two different performances.

Or ... I can easily write stuff live on one machine ( in the booth/on the stage ) while the other is playing...

Or ... quite often the ASQ10 will end up being the lighting controller to take the excess sysex garbage load away from the MPC.

No fixed way to using the two but believe me ... it can easily be done.

Another MPC3000 would be better in all the above regards but hey ... can't have everything.

That is all I can think of at the moment as I've never given too much thought to "how" I use the two together... :-)

By elmacaco Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:03 pm
Perfect, thanks Rohan, I see where it could be handy now.

By fobedafied Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:38 pm
HMM... does the ASQ have pads? does anyone have a pic of one to post?

By DEADLY MiND Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:43 pm
fobedafied wrote:HMM... does the ASQ have pads? does anyone have a pic of one to post?


http://www.keyboardmuseum.org/pic/a/akai/asq10.gif



I wanted to check it out, cuz i dont have the 60, and i want to try and give that swing that you all talk about to my EPS16+. I got the 2000XL, right now my bro is usin it, but i love the EPS16+ and i wanna check out how it would work incorporating a different sequencer into my setup.

By elmacaco Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:50 pm
That would be pretty cool, but if you're gonna pay like $400 for the ASQ 10, wouldn't a 60 at $500-600 be better?

By DEADLY MiND Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:09 am
elmacaco wrote:That would be pretty cool, but if you're gonna pay like $400 for the ASQ 10, wouldn't a 60 at $500-600 be better?


Other then the $50 60 i saw somebody on here get, ive only seen a couple go for $500-$600. But i guess i really like havin shit that other people dont have really.


But if i saw an ASQ10 goin for maybe $450, and an MPC60 goin for $500, i guess id hafto get the MPC60. But im just kinda curious about standalone sequencers. Ive seen a lot, but most of you know how good the MPC's sequencer is compared to rolands, yamahas, and kawais sequencers. I just think the ASQ10 would be a good addition to the equipment im tryin to build up. Just kinda another piece of equipment id like to use, and sell if i think its collectin dust.



Check this out, it might help you understand a little better what im tryin to do:
http://www.vintagesynth.org/misc/sequencers.shtml

By arctec Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:04 am
if anyone is looking for cheap, rock solid hardware sequencers, don't miss out on the MMT8 Alesis. This things were built to complement the HR16 drum machine, and they are rock solid and simple to use. They even got mute buttons for each of the 8 tracks. On the fly mixing! They aint got no swing, but for certain styles they rock, are good for dumping your computer sequencing onto when playing live, and thanks to this thread :D perfect for all the sysex stuff. These things are dirt cheap (saw one yesterday for 40GBP) and even more simple than the 60 to operate.

I've used the Yamaha QY700 as well (but swapped it for an Octopad!) Didn't really get on with it - typical yamaha OS - loads of pages etc But it has extensive features if that's your rucksack (eg. GM or Yam equivalent sound set with good editing - should have kept it for the that reason). Not cheap thou.

By mpc3000le Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:33 pm
From experience of having once owned 2 MMT8's ( prior to ASQ10 and MPC3000 style boxes ) I'll add the following: INMHO...

1: Alesis MMT8 is a housed in a cheap shit plastic case that doesn't stand up to abuse.

2: The squidgy rubber buttons are flimsy and can't be easily replaced.

3: The step edit mode is a joke.

4: The MMT8 wasn't even half reliable software wise until it had been ROM upgraded to almost it's last version. ( not all distributors were good at advising there dealers/customers about this fact ).

Now ... in keeping with leaving the best bits until last:

Yes ... they are easy to use ( 8 track mute/active thing is kind of cool ) and as a weapon they have nice sharp edges that can inflict damage on rude punters... ( Their shape has a certain wing type profile that allows a smooth flight through the air in this regard ).

As a sequencer ? The way they work does promote the idea of playing your music in the way you want. Why ? Because the editing sux so bad that you wouldn't want to go into the screens to fiddle.

At this price ? Go a Yamaha QX5FD or Kawai Q80EX. Both are better "sequencers" by far ... and they are built WELL !!!

Sorry for the rant.

I'm possibly just that one guy who had bad experiences with my MMT8's.

Now ... where were we ? Oh yeah ... The MPC forum , with AKAI stuff that works ... ( LOL ) :-)


Just my $0.02.

Rohan.

By arctec Thu Aug 05, 2004 7:24 am
MMT8 -

I hear you on the wedge thing they are def. built to fly..

not had problems with dodgy os

contacts do have to be cleaned after a while of abuse

Is there a step edit? - never used it.

Not a drum seq. but like I said - perfect for all the sysex stuff and dumping sequences onto to play out live


Horses and courses...

By fobedafied Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:57 am
just came up on an asq10, got a cool deal on it...

this is probably a stupid question, but im curious... what is sysex?