$5 card reader for your XL

left side of the CF slot when looking at the front

Can't see the markings, but as a standard it's probably for Master or Slave setting.

this fixed my problem, it was set to slave by default. thanks for your help!

here are photos I took showing the exact Addonics CF card reader I have so this one works.

Right now I have a zip in my 2kxl and I'm sick of the errors. Last night I saved 2 measly sounds I was messing with on my pc onto a zip disc just to test on my mpc. I successfully load one sound into the MPC, go to load the next sound and get a damn error. WTH? It's maddening! Anyway, as usual I like to over think these things so I'm wondering...

If I get the Addonics CF card reader with their bay adapter deal should I be able to use the IDE cables from the current zip drive? The power cable on the other hand I'd have to swap for one with all the wires not just the 2 it has now? Regardless of cf reader brand OS 1.2 should be installed?

About CF cards-- seems they're a whole other issue which confuses me. It seems even if a card is proven to work at one point, it may not by the time I were to get one cause the manufacturer may have changed some spec on it? Like homie in SMC's thread said happened with the Delkin card, but that may depend on the cf reader brand also?

Assuming everything works, should you format the card in the MPC first and then load sounds from your computer? I'm trying to understand how not to screw up FAT going back and forth from MPC to PC. If I've been creating and saving on the MPC and then load sounds from my pc, it shouldn't be an issue as long as I'm not removing the card half way thru an mpc session to load more sounds at the pc? In other words load whatever you're going to load on the PC then work on the MPC?

Now as far as the reader in your pc, would it cause less problems to have the same brand cf reader in your pc as in your MPC, i.e. Adonics in MPC and Adonics in PC? From what I gather it doesn't matter, but mr_debauch mentioned having cards work on his MPC and not on his computer. What's up with that?

Maybe I should wait for SMC's next batch of readers on Ebay and avoid the hassle or wait for the breakthrough he was working on if it's coming soon

If I get the Addonics CF card reader with their bay adapter deal should I be able to use the IDE cables from the current zip drive? The power cable on the other hand I'd have to swap for one with all the wires not just the 2 it has now? Regardless of cf reader brand OS 1.2 should be installed?

About CF cards-- seems they're a whole other issue which confuses me. It seems even if a card is proven to work at one point, it may not by the time I were to get one cause the manufacturer may have changed some spec on it? Like homie in SMC's thread said happened with the Delkin card, but that may depend on the cf reader brand also?

Assuming everything works, should you format the card in the MPC first and then load sounds from your computer? I'm trying to understand how not to screw up FAT going back and forth from MPC to PC. If I've been creating and saving on the MPC and then load sounds from my pc, it shouldn't be an issue as long as I'm not removing the card half way thru an mpc session to load more sounds at the pc? In other words load whatever you're going to load on the PC then work on the MPC?

Now as far as the reader in your pc, would it cause less problems to have the same brand cf reader in your pc as in your MPC, i.e. Adonics in MPC and Adonics in PC? From what I gather it doesn't matter, but mr_debauch mentioned having cards work on his MPC and not on his computer. What's up with that?

Maybe I should wait for SMC's next batch of readers on Ebay and avoid the hassle or wait for the breakthrough he was working on if it's coming soon

the CF card reader uses a standard IDE ribbon although it requires an older type (low density, I believe) which doesn't have a notch in the pins. if you look at the connector on the cable it will have none of the holes blocked. if this isn't clear I can take a photo to show you what I mean. the cable wasn't difficult for me to find, any place that has older computer parts will have it, otherwise you can use a new cable you'll just have to modify it with an exacto knife or something. not a big deal but takes a few extra minutes.

don't worry about the CF card too much, most of the ones that I have work fine. the max capacity that the 2000xl can use is 1gb and 1gb CF cards are dirt cheap so you can buy a couple if the first one doesn't work for you. really not a big deal though, most of the ones I used to use in my digital SLR work fine in the MPC. I format the cards in the PC which I think is better although I'm not really sure. I remember reading about it on this forum but can't recall exactly what the situation was. formatting on the PC works fine for me though.

having the same brand card reader in your PC as your mpc isn't necessary, any CF card reader will work on the PC side. the MPC is picky because it's such an old piece of hardware with limited compatibility.

buying the pieces yourself and putting together is really very easy, one tiny thing had me caught up for a while (a small jumper which SMC pointed out to me) but otherwise it was straight forward. if you have time but not money get the Addonics reader online with the 3.5" bay bracket (it all comes together in a kit). if you're sitting on a bunch of cash but have no time, get the kit from SMC. here's a photo of my MPC after completed installation, this is exactly how I was hoping it would turn out:



hope this helps you out-

The ribbon cable is just a 40 Pin IDE Cable

'Any' cable will work. Older or newer. The newer Ultra IDE Cables work as well, as they are downward compatible.

The only thing you need to do is be sure it's plugged in correctly.

They make IDE cables in about a billion configurations... with notches, without notches, blocked pins, all open pins, 2 connector, 3 connector, etc.

If you get one without the notches, well, tabs, the notch is in the header, you have to make sure you have the connector in the right way......

If you get one that has 3 connectors, there will be a long gap and short gap from the end connectors to the center one. The end with the long gap goes to the mpc, and the inside connector goes to the drive

Cool, thanks that does help. The power cable for the Addonics...is it one with 4 wires?

sonseelye wrote:

Fading wrote:I just got one of those:
http://i24.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/23/d8/c845_1.JPG (Teac FD-CR8)

Floppy works perfect (on the SCSI port) but I cant connect the other ones...

MY IDEA:
get one of those and modify it: http://www.megacycle.de/artikel/usb-ide-konverter.jpg

then connect it to the other cable on the cardreader (http://www.partsdata.de/descr_artikel/K ... RN_BIG.jpg)


does anyone know if this is actually possible?

what os r u running?

Sorry I didn't reply earlier! I use OS 1.14 ...

I was wondering..... can a SCSI to IDE adapter be used for one of these CF card drives to work in a 2000? Late night brainstorming makes me wonder? What do you guys think?

Fading wrote:I just got one of those:
http://i24.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/23/d8/c845_1.JPG (Teac FD-CR8)

Floppy works perfect (on the SCSI port) but I cant connect the other ones...

MY IDEA:
get one of those and modify it: http://www.megacycle.de/artikel/usb-ide-konverter.jpg

then connect it to the other cable on the cardreader (http://www.partsdata.de/descr_artikel/K ... RN_BIG.jpg)


does anyone know if this is actually possible?

Can someone here answer my question?

Maybe it was not clear enough:

I'm using a cardreader with a built in floppy drive... on the backside of the drive there are 3 cables, the powercable, a ATAPI cable(for the floppy drive), and an Internal USB cable(for the cardreader)

I've also got a USB to IDE adapter that I modified (cut of the USB plug and connected the wires in there with those from the cardreader)

The floppydrive works, but the cardreader not...

Can someone of you guys tell me if I can actually use the cardreader AND the floppydrive? Or how should I manage this?

*PUSH*

I am assuming that your issue may be related to pin configuration or power

make sure you have the wiring connected correctly.

Also, be sure that you are powering the USB to the card reader.
USB carries its own power source, but that IDE connector does not,
so you need to be sure you are somehow supplying the required power, likely 5v

That is designed to plug into an IDE hard drive, then a USB port, but you also would have to run seperate power.

This is most likely your issue.

Make a jumper for the power connector to feed the USB connection to the reader

and even then, I'm not sure this will work at all for you

If it does that'd be pretty cool

Seperate Power! I'll try that and post whether it works or not!

But thx in advance

First of all thank you very much! ...but it didn't work

When I connect the cardreader to the IDE-slot, the mpc doesn't start up.. all LED's & the screen flash up but nothing happens...

and when I disconnect it and reboot I get the message "Insert Akai Disk"... So I had to reinstall the OS again

Tried that also without the floppy drive and same thing there...

But I'm convinced that someone here will find a solution for this too

SMC, You're not going to update us on the 1GB limit huh? I already have a hotswap drive and accidentally got a 2GB ComoactFlash card but had to partition the card unless you decide to give up this secret.
Peace
S II

Fading wrote:First of all thank you very much! ...but it didn't work

When I connect the cardreader to the IDE-slot, the mpc doesn't start up.. all LED's & the screen flash up but nothing happens...

and when I disconnect it and reboot I get the message "Insert Akai Disk"... So I had to reinstall the OS again

Tried that also without the floppy drive and same thing there...

But I'm convinced that someone here will find a solution for this too

So you are trying to use the floppy/card reader/usb drive in your MPC??? I thought you were hooking up that floppy drive in a computer.
I've gone that route trying different methods of IDE to USB/SCSI and none of them work. Same thing for me, lights flash and nothing happens. USB won't work bruh without a major reconfiguration to use the USB and that includes reprogramming the OS.
Just go with a plain ole small card reader for less than $5 like folks have stated on here. Quit while you are ahead before you burn something up.

Thought i'd ask this here.

I've aquired an akai dps12i, only prob is no removable media drive came with it, haven't recieved it yet but from what i understand theres a slot to add an optional ide flash/jaz/cf reader drive.
Anyone know if this will work on it? The money saved beats the hell out of way overpriced scsi drives.

Is it possible to use the MPC2000XL MCD IDE CF reader (eg from mpcstuff.com) AND an $5 IDE CF reader inside my xl?

Cheers!