Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs

By Terrahertz Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:47 am
247beatz wrote:
kybeats wrote:
JStruMENTAL wrote:
247beatz wrote:i like dres


no you mean scott storch


no you mean Mel-man :lol:


i guess you guys actually never seen dre in the studio. Um, for alot of his tracks, he does do the drums. But for some, he doesnt.




I guess you guys never heard of Mike Elizando he is the real dre I seen him work.

Storch is weak next to mike mel mans even weaker.

http://www.windsweptpacific.com/thewrit ... izondo.asp

By funky-74 Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:31 pm
45 king when it comes to the oldskool cats. He has that raw sound to it, even with his newer tracks!
And for the newer ones i'd say Spinna and Dilla ty.
By Phillystress Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:51 am
........Large Professor!!! Problably got the some of the ruffest Drums ever!!
Definitely one of the hardest Producers of all time!!!! BTW Since When has Dre be Known for his Drum Sounds????

By Logic718 Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:49 pm
Are you kidding? I'm not a die hard fan of Dre, but even his R&B tracks have that thump in his kicks, and the crispness in his snares. Even some of the songs that I didn't like where he produced it, I couldn't deny his ability to mix his shit.. Songs like Family Affair: MaryJ, Fast Lane: Bilal, I wasnt really feeling to tough, but those drums are crazy. Even, Still Dre, I didnt really like the first time I heard it. But those drums, when they hit its like "hell yeah." (Listen to these songs in your headphones and you'll see what I'm talking about.)

For all the DJ's, you ever been cueing up the next record and you notice the difference in quality of the mix from one song to another and you gotta adjust the level? Whenever you cue a dre track, its like its in a league of its own when you hear how well it was mixed. He uses the right compression with just the right amout of fx where it doesn't dampen the punch of his drums and it sounds amazing. Listen to "Lay Low" which is another song I didn't like too much, but damn it sounds good.

He may not play all of the instruments when he produces, but he damn sure knows how to make the instruments sound their best. I think that makes him one of the nicest!!

Peace

By elmacaco Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:07 pm
You really think Dre does his own mastering?
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By binger0 Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:31 pm
jermaine dupri or eminem




:D

By elmacaco Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:36 pm
PM Dawn :lol:
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By binger0 Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:23 pm
Luther Campbell got the best drums in the biz.

:D

By elmacaco Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:24 pm
Milli Vanilli got them grimey drums. 8)

By elmacaco Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:30 am
OK, but the final sound of the track, the compression et al. is the mastering of the track, which can occur at mixdown, but I still doubt dre is responsible for even that.

By Logic718 Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:01 am
elmacaco wrote:OK, but the final sound of the track, the compression et al. is the mastering of the track, which can occur at mixdown, but I still doubt dre is responsible for even that.


Maybe you're right. But album after album, from Death Row to Aftermath(I'm purposely excluding his previous work), the mixdown of his tracks are tight. Now I know he's not using the same engineers to do the same work, or the same musicians, on all of these projects... And all engineers dont all sound the same, but Dre's tracks still have that recognizable exceptional warm clarity that you dont find in a lot hiphop tracks. The common denominator here is Dre. It all starts from the initial kicks and snares he uses. If these aren't properly tweaked and recorded initially, mastering a single track will not improve the sound of your drums or track very much, even after the best mixdown.. And I doubt mastering is done at the same time the mixdown occurs. Even if you do put an overall compression on the entire song, it is still apart of the mixdown until its sent to another studio for mastering by another engineer.

Peace

By elmacaco Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:16 am
YEah, his tracks from that era are nice and sparse. He could have used the same mastering house on have the same in house engineer, but I'm sure he knows how to EQ and stuff, and I've heard that he is present at every mixdown, so perhaps you're right.
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By 12-bit_princE Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:50 am
As far as what comes to mind immediatley, I like the way the break sounds on shadow's "six days", I also like a few joints I've heard from Dan the Automator. Primo, of course. Also, peep "Delorean" by El-P. Just my pO.
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By binger0 Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:25 am
damn yo my dog looks just like that. hes a rugged fuc***