How to have those boom bap drums?

Hi everybody!
I would like to have some good boom bap drums(the same kind than those of Primo, Pete Rock, Da Beatminerz, Stoupe...) but don't manage to have it yet.
Here is how I proceed but I don't know if my technique is good:
I sample drums from some funk, jazz or rock records. I try tu put some EQ to have the kind of sound that I want, and then I add some compression and put it in my MPC 2000. But I don't get really good sounds. I only use free VST to do that.
Do you have some tips for me, like good VST, EQ or compressor presets or anything else that can be helpful?
Thanks!

Borat wrote:Hi everybody!
I would like to have some good boom bap drums(the same kind than those of Primo, Pete Rock, Da Beatminerz, Stoupe...) but don't manage to have it yet.
Here is how I proceed but I don't know if my technique is good:
I sample drums from some funk, jazz or rock records. I try tu put some EQ to have the kind of sound that I want, and then I add some compression and put it in my MPC 2000. But I don't get really good sounds. I only use free VST to do that.
Do you have some tips for me, like good VST, EQ or compressor presets or anything else that can be helpful?
Thanks!

Maybe you should compress AFTER, in your daw or something..I don't really know compression, but I wouldn't bother compressing until the song is complete, someone else here may be able to answer your question though

man.. thats a science
the most important thing is a good sample, a good drumbreak, with a good frequency-spectrum, cause you cant add frequencys to you sound, you can only boost or reduce frequencys.. and you need a good eq.. what i can advise are the waves bundles - very good plug ins! (especially the rbass - works great! perfect for kicks! check this: http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=194)
and what i always do is - i cut the frequencys that the sounds dont need - like hihats dont need frequencys under 250mhz or something.. the best way is to try it out!
to cut frequencys is important.. the sounds harmonize better when you do that..
cause of compressing - i compress my drumsounds before i load them in my mpc to, i think its a good way to accentuate attack and something.. but i compress them later again to (the whole drumgroup) and later the whole mixdown hehe
hmm i hope i could help you a little bit.. if i remind some other things i´ll post it!
again sorry for my english im from vienna

peace

and what you really should learn: how compressors work, what they do and you will know how to use it right..

Thanks a lot fredlib, I will check those plug ins
Also, do you know what are the frequencies that are not necessary for kicks and snares?

Borat wrote:Thanks a lot fredlib, I will check those plug ins
Also, do you know what are the frequencies that are not necessary for kicks and snares?

aahh necessary was the word i didnt find hehe thank you!
the best thing you can do is to take a paragrafic or a parametric eq, make a small envelope, gain -25db or something, go through the frequency-spectrum and listen whats happening.. so you find out which frequencys are important and which not..
hope i wrote this halfway understandable

and what you also can do is laying sounds upon the other (like a subbass under a kick or something, the options are endless!)

fredlib wrote:man.. thats a science
the most important thing is a good sample, a good drumbreak, with a good frequency-spectrum, cause you cant add frequencys to you sound, you can only boost or reduce frequencys..

layering.. (tempted to eye roll, but it seems so rude)

just beat me to it, lol.

padlock wrote:

fredlib wrote:man.. thats a science
the most important thing is a good sample, a good drumbreak, with a good frequency-spectrum, cause you cant add frequencys to you sound, you can only boost or reduce frequencys..

layering.. (tempted to eye roll, but it seems so rude)

just beat me to it, lol.

hehe yeah right! its a option..
but my opinion is: better 1 fat drumkit as many layered sounds

Thanks everybody!
Does someone have other tips?

boom bap eh?

snares on 2 and 4
hats pretty much 1/8 notes all the way through
kick on the 1 and where ever else you want them. (If you quantize, i recommend 16(3) or 32(3). )

layer drum breaks and other one shots. Basic boom bap can be pretty boring to be honest. (Im not one of those 32(3) hi hat dudes either.) Boom bip is where its at. lol

boom bap - 16th, 63%
your welcome.

easy way ( non mpc)


go download the 30 day free ableton live 8 trial



load your desired drum samples in a drum rack and sequence out a 4 to 8 bar pattern


apply the "redux" effect to 12 bit


go into the ableton groove pool and a 58% to 70 % sp 1200 or mpc 1/8 or 1/16 groove/quantize/swing on the WHOLE pattern


boom to the bap you have different. there is a particular groove in there that should have been named "pete rock" il'l let you find that one


or do the same on your mpc using the swing setting 58% & above

youl'l be at 16 bit most mpc's.... then you can downgrade to 12 bit if wanted after going to daw

For real, just go to your PROGRAM screen, got to ASSIGN, choose SIMULT and start combining different kicks and snares. At some point eventually, you will start getting the sound you look after.