Anybody here up on Maschine yet?

exit, no romance wrote:Really? I just sold one with the LOOP/KEYBOARD keys and kept the one that has the RESTART/PAD MODE keys, and I couldn't see any noticeable difference physically. I'm not sure which version is the newest, I just sold the one I purchased first. I wonder what the differences are for real then if there are some.

There's no difference at all other than the labels.

I remember the pads being very stiff on a display model I encountered. Purists will not be persuaded. The only thing I wish the MPC had was a sequencer similar to the Roland Mv8800. I'm intrigued, but not enticed.

séance wrote:I remember the pads being very stiff on a display model I encountered. Purists will not be persuaded. The only thing I wish the MPC had was a sequencer similar to the Roland Mv8800. I'm intrigued, but not enticed.

Maschine's pads are far superior to the MPC/MPD pads in terms of sensitivity, playability, and more versatile because it gives visual feedback. MPC/MPD pads are only good for percussive samples. It fails when you try to play something like a melody of sustained notes in gated mode for example. It's hard not to make a mistake when doing the same on the MPC. Maschine's pads are very similar to the pads on the padKontrol which have set the standard for drum pad quality. MPC/MPD pads are unique and do have great feel, not to mention they're pressure sensitive but they're very limited in comparison.

Wow, the Maschine. I went to GC like a month ago and they had it there available for demo. The Maschine is so damn sleek. I like the interface, the lit pads, the software. I'm seriously thinking of investing in one. It's a damn tight machine!

How does Maschine's sequencer work? Is it similar to the MV8800, MPC, or other? I love the MPC but the MV8800 appeals to me simply because of the drag and drop track sequencer. Having to cut out bars from a sequence becomes tedious.

emptysea wrote:

séance wrote:I remember the pads being very stiff on a display model I encountered. Purists will not be persuaded. The only thing I wish the MPC had was a sequencer similar to the Roland Mv8800. I'm intrigued, but not enticed.

Maschine's pads are far superior to the MPC/MPD pads in terms of sensitivity, playability, and more versatile because it gives visual feedback. MPC/MPD pads are only good for percussive samples. It fails when you try to play something like a melody of sustained notes in gated mode for example. It's hard not to make a mistake when doing the same on the MPC. Maschine's pads are very similar to the pads on the padKontrol which have set the standard for drum pad quality. MPC/MPD pads are unique and do have great feel, not to mention they're pressure sensitive but they're very limited in comparison.

I wouldnt go that far, maschines pads dont feel bad, much better than MV's IMO. But I would still rather have MPC pads on there

séance wrote:How does Maschine's sequencer work? Is it similar to the MV8800, MPC, or other? I love the MPC but the MV8800 appeals to me simply because of the drag and drop track sequencer. Having to cut out bars from a sequence becomes tedious.

from my editing experience in the MV with mouse was bit pain when comes down to moving single notes. it worked better for me to move around and arrange sequences than anything else. another drawback I found was not being able to resize any windows

You can pretty much forget having to use the mouse with Maschine as pretty much everything can be done on the controller itself, even stuff like selecting sections in a pattern, nudging, copy/cut/paste/duplicate...etc.

konc3pt wrote:I wouldnt go that far, maschines pads dont feel bad, much better than MV's IMO. But I would still rather have MPC pads on there

The same here. Maschine's pads physically aren't that special, it's the ability to change the sensitivity in the software combined with the padKontrol like pads (triggers on corners, soft after use, et cetera). I still think the pads on the older MPCs feel better physically. I also don't like how easily things appear to be able to become lodged in between the pads liked dust particles and such. I haven't had anything get lodged in them but it looks easily possible.

emptysea wrote:You can pretty much forget having to use the mouse with Maschine as pretty much everything can be done on the controller itself, ev"en stuff like selecting sections in a pattern, nudging, copy/cut/paste/duplicate...etc.

"maschine","maschine,"maschine",..........just some german mpc for computer heads,no??ill stick wit the korg pad control!!!!!!!

dryad-66 wrote:"maschine","maschine,"maschine",..........just some german mpc for computer heads,no??ill stick wit the korg pad control!!!!!!!

wahaha you couldn't be more wrong. you can't really compare it to anything, not even a MPC, because it's never been done before. It is a first true hardware-software hybrid. All the power of software with a dedicated hardware combined with the same efficient hardware worklow as a self-contained hardware.

konc3pt wrote:

séance wrote:How does Maschine's sequencer work? Is it similar to the MV8800, MPC, or other? I love the MPC but the MV8800 appeals to me simply because of the drag and drop track sequencer. Having to cut out bars from a sequence becomes tedious.

from my editing experience in the MV with mouse was bit pain when comes down to moving single notes. it worked better for me to move around and arrange sequences than anything else. another drawback I found was not being able to resize any windows

Interesting, I've only had very limited exposure to the MV8800 so I've not encountered this. Next time I come into contact with one however I will check for this. How does the Maschine's sequencer work?

exit, no romance wrote:

konc3pt wrote:I wouldnt go that far, maschines pads dont feel bad, much better than MV's IMO. But I would still rather have MPC pads on there

The same here. Maschine's pads physically aren't that special, it's the ability to change the sensitivity in the software combined with the padKontrol like pads (triggers on corners, soft after use, et cetera). I still think the pads on the older MPCs feel better physically. I also don't like how easily things appear to be able to become lodged in between the pads liked dust particles and such. I haven't had anything get lodged in them but it looks easily possible.

actually had a problem with maschines pads at first. I noticed if I hit the pads at certain angle the whole pad sheet would shift. I was gonna open it and glue together or something

séance wrote:

konc3pt wrote:

séance wrote:How does Maschine's sequencer work? Is it similar to the MV8800, MPC, or other? I love the MPC but the MV8800 appeals to me simply because of the drag and drop track sequencer. Having to cut out bars from a sequence becomes tedious.

from my editing experience in the MV with mouse was bit pain when comes down to moving single notes. it worked better for me to move around and arrange sequences than anything else. another drawback I found was not being able to resize any windows

Interesting, I've only had very limited exposure to the MV8800 so I've not encountered this. Next time I come into contact with one however I will check for this. How does the Maschine's sequencer work?

Cant comment on the sequencer, for most part use it as a VST in live.

konc3pt wrote:actually had a problem with maschines pads at first. I noticed if I hit the pads at certain angle the whole pad sheet would shift. I was gonna open it and glue together or something

You mean a problem as in you didn't like them or weren't used to them at first, or a problem as in you had to return it? I ask because mine does that too. I actually had two controllers for a little while and they both did it, I thought that was just the way they were designed.

exit, no romance wrote:

konc3pt wrote:actually had a problem with maschines pads at first. I noticed if I hit the pads at certain angle the whole pad sheet would shift. I was gonna open it and glue together or something

You mean a problem as in you didn't like them or weren't used to them at first, or a problem as in you had to return it? I ask because mine does that too. I actually had two controllers for a little while and they both did it, I thought that was just the way they were designed.

I think it's a design flaw, seems pad sheet is not held down by anything preventing to move around...it just bothered me that when I hit a pad at certain angle the pad sheet would shift upwards or whatever direction. I resolved the problem by not hitting the pads on the angle

Doctor, it hurts when I do this.