Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By Damien_o Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:13 pm
I'm in a psych band, and while I play a full wooden hammond in the jam space, it's intensely difficult to truck around. I have a nord lead 2x, but you can't really get organ sounds out of it obviously. Also, and most importantly, I'm a poor student with no money that can't afford to buy any more equipment right now.

So here was my idea, and I'm probably going to figure it out before someone posts.. but just in case I don't.

I figure I get samples of notes from an organ or rhodes, create a program of all the samples in order, and then use my synth to trigger the notes via midi. triggering a sample usually means the sample starts and ends, so there'd have to be a way of keeping the sample looping while I'm holding down the key, and then mute when I let go. on top of that, there'd have to be a way to eliminate any 'looping clips' (my obvious lack of terminology). But you know what I mean.

Has anyone tried this? Does anyone know the 1000 better than I do and might be able to offer tips? thanks for any help. even a simple "yes that works" or "no that wont work" would be nice.
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By Lampdog Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:22 pm
What your thinking will work perfectly.

Keeping the sample looping is no problem (well complex waveform samples such as a rhodes will
take some loop tweaking to get perfect but it CAN be done), u can place the sample into loop mode
and it will loop, change some params/envelopes around and it will drop off when you release the
sample, u can specify release/decay time via envelopes (alot of us do this when we create basslines on any mpc
for me it was creating basslines on a 2kxl, but same technique I'd use if I wanted a rhodes as in ur situation).

You can tweak the loop zero points so that there will be no pops/clicks (sharp drop/increase in volume causes
the pop/clicks that you speak of.

As for your 1k menus, someone else will have to speak up on the specifics and guide u through that part but
it can be done, it won't be quick. Remember ur talking about creating a kybd multisample pgm.
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By crossings Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:36 pm
i'll cosign everything lamp said... in a nutshell, it's possible but would be very time consuming to edit/assign that many samples and loop points.

is there any reason why you don't just wanna use an organ VSTi plugin and use your midi keyboard with a laptop instead? it would be much easier to set up, would probably sound more authentic, and i'm sure there are numerous organ vst instruments available online for free.
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By crossings Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:52 pm
but if you do decide to spend hours hunched over your mpc making a perfect organ PGM file... please do be sure to share it with us all on this forum once you're done. :mrgreen:
By Damien_o Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:42 am
yeah I can't use my laptop because it's a netbook. 1 gig ram, 1.6 ghz cpu... not powerful enough. I'll get a mac someday.

yeah I'm going to spend some time sampling my hammond starting tomorrow I guess. If I come up with something worth using I'll create another thread with a similar title.
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By peterpiper Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:56 pm
For this task I would always choose a sampler with keygroups over the MPC. Emu E6400 or something like that is relative cheap but very powerful and IMO its easier to create a PRGM on that machine than on a MPC. The MPC also allows "only" 64 samples (16 pads x 4 banks). For HipHop Beats or Bass or Trumpet or something like that ok but not enough for the full keyrange of a Hammond organ or a Piano

peace


:oops: Sorry, didn't realize that this is the 1000 subforum. Maybe the 1000 can handle this kind of task easier than my 2000 :)

peace
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By Lampdog Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:07 am
peterpiper wrote: :oops: Sorry, didn't realize that this is the 1000 subforum. Maybe the 1000 can handle this kind of task easier than my 2000 :)

peace

This is not a 1k specific problem and shouldn't have been placed here.

Moved to production techniques.