Maschine vs MPC 4000

Askia Shaheed wrote:I didn't look at Rock On because I thought it would be more expensive because of the exchange rate. I placed another order for Maschine and ensured they shipped it via Priority mail. I received shipping confirmation so it will be here within 1 week. My first order is somewhere on a boat.

I honestly wouldn't mind seeing an MPC-killer in the form of something that intergrates with software. As I stated earlier, NI beat Akai to the punch. But since Akai has already jumped into the controller market, they should do a controller based off of a real MPC (unlike the MPD). Whether they translate the MPC OS into a Windows/Mac platform or creating a controller for NI's Maschine...I think they will have a winner. But the OS must match or exceed an MPC which isn't the case. But there are people around the forums that claim it is. While you said it is no MPC-killer...you are being too nice to NI. This is unlike you based upon your previous evaluations of the latest Akai MPCs. What is up with that? I think we need a real comparison chart for the Maschine vs MPC.

Honest, constructive feedback is one of my reasons for buying Maschine. And once I get it, I will be all over the NI site doing just that....that is what I do.

Askia Shaheed wrote:Ok. You are still being way...way too nice. Are you going to leave it to me to get down and dirty? These videos show exactly what can be done with any MPC especially the latest models. Drag and drop MIDI files from the MPCs hard drive to a DAW is a very simple process.

Askia Shaheed wrote:This is one of the smoke and mirror features they keep talking about at NI site and ol boy in the other threads. NI hypes non-routine tasks such as this. I am more interested in the routine tasks.

I am more than happy to play devils advocate. I have written an entire novel just by reading the manual about what Maschine lacks when compared to an MPC even within a software environment. However, I will save it for my review...coming soon.

Askia Shaheed wrote:Nope. I am a registered member of Native Instruments because I owned/own several of their products. I downloaded the manual for 1.5 as soon as it was released. Nothing in the manual has impressed me coming from an MPC background. I am not blowing smoke by the way...American Musical called me minutes ago to confirm that my order has already shipped. I am intelligent enough to read a manual and let you know what a product lacks.

I have seen nearly every NI video on You Tube. I know you like it because you are using it now...which was sort of my point. The forum is filled with too many fan boys that won't come clean. I am not saying you are in the same boat...but then again I am. I am not trying to cause beef. Just to give people good information about the pros and cons of music production gear...like I always have.

MPC 4000 has 64 voices....Maschine has 32.
MPC 4000 can import Akai, Roland, and Emu formats. Maschine?
An MPC...you just sample and assign later. Maschine has you picking a sound slot before you sample. Its nearly impossible to run out of sound slots on an MPC but not the case with Maschine. No?

Maschine still has no timestretching and pitchshifting like any sampler (including an MPC). No?

Askia Shaheed wrote:You told me to check out the videos..and I did just that. I didn't say the MPC is way better. I just gave specifics where the MPC is superior since you wouldn't. (I thought this was MPC versus Maschine thread?).

Before Maschine was released, I wrote a thread on what I felt a product of that type should have (MPC 5000 unplugged). I ordered Maschine (shipping confirmed ) to explore what it has to offer and write a review on it from an MPC-user perspective. This has yet to be done in the forum. I was hoping you would do it. This is just a review/debate and mos def not about saving money.

You said that chopping on Maschine is faster than an MPC 4000. I can see that. But my review will concentrate on the newer MPC using the JJ OS which is much faster and more flexible than Maschine. You may not see this, but I will give specifics at a later date. This info is in numerous JJ OS MPC 1000/2500 threads.


All good and well but for three weeks all you have repeated was specs, specs, specs and more specs from a manual. Why don't you download the demo for FREE. Work with it for a week and give your inputs then.


Go ahead download 1.5 and fine for yourself. Like I said before that you keep ducking around why would a hardware owner like you want a maschine aka software instrument running a hardware studio. It's backwards thinking. For the longest I been running a software studio with hardware which means I do all the processing things you ask in the box. Maschine works well in the box sorry Jah you are still with the hardware studio mindset. To each his own.




Pitchshifting/time stretching. Whether someone uses this or not, it is still not available on Maschine although every modern software or hardware sampler has this function.

Sample formats. Whether someone needs the different sample formats is not the question. I just listed what Maschine doesn't have and what the MPC 4000 does have (remember....MPC 4000 versus Maschine).

Askia Shaheed wrote:Umm...I thought this was about Maschine versus an MPC? And not about why I would purchase Maschine. I can't recall every saying a pro-hardware or pro-software. I do recall saying that I use an MPC with software instruments (Reason, Battery, Kontakt, Giga Studio, Mach Five, Nuendo, Logic, etc. etc) the same was numerous producers do...which is the reason why I never use an MPC for multisampled instrument patches. Nearly all my audio is mostly in the box with the MPC as the sequencer. But I do use the MPC to chop samples to later import or record them into a DAW.

While you may disagree..specs is and will always be important. You do recall the numerous threads where people are upset that the latest MPCs didn't have 24 bit sampling (specs) and didn't have 512 MB to 1 GB of memory (specs). I intend to post an MPC versus Maschine thread where terminology and specs are compared backed up with how they perform in various situations.

No need to download a demo which would be counterproductive without the hardware. The software alone isn't impressive. The combination of the hardware and software is where its potential lies.

From all the threads and feedback around here...forum members what to know the skinny on Maschine and how it performs compared to an MPC. Since nobody is trying to do this, I have stepped up..spent $600 and will do it for the community. People want to know the truth and not a sales pitch. If NI is going to support this product in the future, now is the chance for MPC users to make their desires known in order to have a better product. I will address this as well.