Talk about the music biz - marketing, promotions, contract law, copyright etc...
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By emceewhiterabbit Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:19 pm
kneebone77 wrote:allot of these rappers don't know the difference between having game and running game.


i think you're giving rappers too much credit :lol:

and by 'rappers' i mean the wannabe guy that walks around in baggy clothes and spits like he's reading somebody else's bars all wrong. you know the type, just flew here from africa and heard a 50 cent song once... or that little white dude that watched 8 mile who never heard a rap song in his life... or the indian kid who gets his fathers business to fund music videos and equipment...

all stereo-types but sadly all exist, have seen every one of them with my own two. i love them all! if they didn't exist life would be boring, i don't think i find anything funnier than a wannabe rapper.
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By harry.ethics Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:29 pm
emceewhiterabbit wrote:rappers would rather buy an mpc, decks, synths and a bass guitar than pay any sputnik producer and give him rights and credits on his albulm...

just kidding, if you got the fire then i want to pay for it.

paid £20 for a beat once, would pay more if i felt it was worth it. when i get big bucks producers may do also. we're not all cheap.



Rabbit dude are you one of them there mclyricistbadboyrapperdappadon types?

wanna do a bit of a colab - if i send you some booom-bap shiz?

my soundcloud stuff is spacey, "mpc and me" business.

but i got a lorra bigger beats sat do nuttin...

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sorry for jackin' the thread.
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By emceewhiterabbit Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:39 pm
chrishayter wrote:
emceewhiterabbit wrote:rappers would rather buy an mpc, decks, synths and a bass guitar than pay any sputnik producer and give him rights and credits on his albulm...

just kidding, if you got the fire then i want to pay for it.

paid £20 for a beat once, would pay more if i felt it was worth it. when i get big bucks producers may do also. we're not all cheap.



Rabbit dude are you one of them there mclyricistbadboyrapperdappadon types?

wanna do a bit of a colab - if i send you some booom-bap shiz?

my soundcloud stuff is spacey, "mpc and me" business.

but i got a lorra bigger beats sat do nuttin...

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sorry for jackin' the thread.


in the future i would most certainly be looking to work with other producers, but for about six months from now i am strictly working with one producer (i don't make my beats, i'm far too wack at the moment!) on my promotional CD and albulm. after that or during the production of the albulm (after the promotional one which is nearly done - just needs mastering really which is proving tremendously expensive for us) i'll be doing a solo project with straight up lyrics no bull shit and no frills (in terms of mastering the lyrics).

this will be the time when i'll be using my beats, your beats, and whoever elses wants some boom bap. but for now our promo (and albulm is unfortunately) a little commercial, (but also fortunately) a little ghetto.
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By emceewhiterabbit Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:18 pm
chrishayter wrote:sooooooooound man, all good.

let me know when you're promos done yo, be good to hear. :D


i'll post it up for free download :D
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By Prah_860_ Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:08 pm
keep in mind...not every dope rapper has a pocket full of money...either you choose to invest or tell him to keep steppin
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By ArKyve-31 Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:20 pm
if i believe this cat is ill i'll break on price cause it helps me out aswell....but if u wanna be the next drake then i'm taxin ur ass to where they wont ask again, not wastin time on the fake
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By poundaproblem Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:56 pm
If the rapper is DOPE write up an agreement that has him signing half his life away, if he is lame charge him...try to avoid free at all costs.


I use the beats a lot of times as bait to get guys to buy studio time. 10-20 hours pre-purchased will come with X amount of beats, exclusive usage no ownership.

To make money in this you have to hustle.

Another thing to keep in mind. MANY producers will quite. Its a fact. A good amount of these rappers buy gear and never get to use it. Offer the option of a barter....beats for the equipment they aren't using.

Unfortunately times aren't what they used to be. Production isn't as valuable as it used to be. There's too many "producers", too many rappers and no market. You have to be wise in how you get your bread.
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By Jfalconcrest Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:56 am
DJ Hellfire wrote:The only people in this industry still making money are the people that make the gear! :lol:



No doubt. Only people that got rich in the gold rush were the dudes selling pans.
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By mr_debauch Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:07 am
DJ Hellfire wrote:The only people in this industry still making money are the people that make the gear! :lol:


yeah and I think we can all agree that even those quality standards have gone down as well.
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By Prah_860_ Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:25 pm
MPC4k wrote:Way I see it: if kid wants to purchase a basketball to be the next Jordan he's not going to turn up at a store and be like "why not free? I'm not rich n famous yet" is he!?



most kids get their 1st basketball, football, baseballs purchased for them.....and they are not priced at hundreds of dollars.....
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By MPC4k Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:37 pm
Prah_860_ wrote:
MPC4k wrote:Way I see it: if kid wants to purchase a basketball to be the next Jordan he's not going to turn up at a store and be like "why not free? I'm not rich n famous yet" is he!?



most kids get their 1st basketball, football, baseballs purchased for them.....and they are not priced at hundreds of dollars.....

K, adult goes off to music production hardware store and dishes out 1000s of £ with hopes of being the next Dre...