Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By Pastor-of-Muppets Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:29 pm
AntonPD wrote:
Sabotage wrote:Every time these threads come up one has to wonder about the logic behind the reasoning.

Alright, if not for vinyl where are you sampling from? Ah, youtube and MP3's?
So what you say, get on with the times you dinosaur, eh?

Well there are several flaws in that:

1. You are getting a compressed audio source to start with
2. Where do you think the records came from. They magically self manifested on your favorite blog? No, someone actually went out to look for them, bought the vinyl, recorded to a computer, converted to MP3 and uploaded it. If you and others would also do this, there would be more record stores around.
3. You are not diggin' you are flipping thru what someone else dugg out.
4. You are limited to what someone else decides to put out there (even if it's the record companies)
5. You and 5000 other people at any given time.


1 isnt vinyl compressed too?
2 you are forgetting cd's
3 so what
4 see '3' + if your only diggin vinyl.. you're limited too
5 huh.. explain this better please


1. no
2. indeed
3. you don't get the fun of finding your own stuff. that might not matter to some people.
4. true, but vinyl has been in production for a lot longer than CDs, not everything has been reissued on CD. And much much longer than MP3s or youtube have been around.
5. something on youtube or a blog is public to the whole world. a record (or CD) you find in a shop might be unknown to most other people looking for sample sources.
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By Pastor-of-Muppets Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:34 pm
[jesus - thanks for posting that giant, retardedly big photo, so the whole thread is wider than your momma's ass ;)]

to answer the OP, I'm not a "vinyl only" person, but I do buy a lot of vinyl - for some releases I prefer to buy it on vinyl to CD (and definitely prefer it to buying a digital release - DEATH BEFORE DOWNLOAD)

but if you struggle to find vinyl you're not trying hard enough - the internet doesn't just make it easy to find digital music, it makes it easier than ever to find vinyl

there are plenty of music stores in the UK that stock vinyl and do mail-order - I buy a lot of new releases on vinyl - some of my favourite artists do vinyl-only releases

there are loads of places to buy secondhand records (ebay, amazon, gemm, discogs, secondhand record stores...)

look for record fairs in your area, there's probably one every month. buy a copy of Record Collector magazine, look for fairs, stores, read the marketplace listings, a lot of the sellers have a website listing their stock
Last edited by Pastor-of-Muppets on Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:36 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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By thx Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:35 pm
Pastor-of-Muppets wrote:1. no
2. indeed
3. you don't get the fun of finding your own stuff. that might not matter to some people.
4. true, but vinyl has been in production for a lot longer than CDs, not everything has been reissued on CD. And much much longer than MP3s or youtube have been around.
5. something on youtube or a blog is public to the whole world. a record (or CD) you find in a shop might be unknown to most other people looking for sample sources.


agree 100%
peace
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By thx Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:40 pm
sorry for the giant pic
i'll fix it in a few minutes
By OneGueyNev Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:09 pm
I read every post in here, I love this thread. A ton of real spit coming from the genuine vinyl digger through-ers. I owned a turntable a back in july and i had to sell it.
This being my first experience with anything other than MP3 and CD. I would go out to the record shops to look for things i knew i wanted that were on cd just to say i had them on vinyl.
Oh boy was i in for a surprise, after a looking through random vinyls for a few minutes, those few minutes tuned into a few hours needless to say i was HOOKED and havent looked back since.
Though i do use m3's and Cd's for sampling and listening now that i don't have my tables anymore, i must say there's a nostalgic feeling to going into the store with 10 bucks and coming out with
more than 10 vinyls of random shit, going home throwing it on the ol vinyl player and catching pretend DJ-ing with your fingers just to find you stumbled upon a really good loop or sample that you
could possibly put some real meaning into.

Im all for vinyl.
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By rookie Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:39 pm
I was looking for something in my basement and forgot I stashed two crate's of albums and big box of 45's in there years ago! plus I just got a sampler :D boy I love record crakle....
By Boogiepop Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:06 am
There's nothing like hearing the familiar thud you get when the stylus hits the vinyl you just got from a dig as you wait in anticipation for the crackle to lead into something you've never heard before, and will potentially sample/make your next beat out off.
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By Explicit- Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:31 pm
Boogiepop wrote:There's nothing like hearing the familiar thud you get when the stylus hits the vinyl you just got from a dig as you wait in anticipation for the crackle to lead into something you've never heard before, and will potentially sample/make your next beat out off.


I like that...
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By maara Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:33 pm
i would buy old vinyls - they have a soul...
the problem is that:
1) there are no vinyl shops at all in my country
2) the best material for me is mostly from 50-80's from the usa but there are no such records being sold in my country
3) our national music from "oldschool" years really sucks....
4) i don't know if there is some record e-shop where I can buy some old soul, blues, swing etc. and they have previews on the web (probably there is no such eshop to buy vinyls from)

^
^
< - - I am ****ed :-(

Thanks god I can download such material in mp3.....
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By incurablebeatlust Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:01 pm
jnorth wrote:Are there any Fred Flintstone **** out there who still refuse to evolve and use sources other than vinyl?

How do you get new records with stores dying quickly and with all the trash records in charity shops. Is sampling vinyl only even realistic now?

I havent bought any records in a while now.. Ive got 15 crates or so.. The thing that keeps it goin is that ill listen to a record today and not hear anything i feel like sampling and tomorrow ill hear all types of samples on that smae record..

I also bought a virus B so ive been making some different less sample dependent beats..
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By thx Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:24 pm
maara wrote:ome old soul, blues, swing etc. and they have previews on the web (probably there is no such eshop to buy vinyls from)


try here:
http://www.recordjunkie.com/stores/view/392
but maybe you already know this spot...

try discogs.com
or ebay
don't know...
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By Ill-Green Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:27 pm
incurablebeatlust wrote:
jnorth wrote:Are there any Fred Flintstone **** out there who still refuse to evolve and use sources other than vinyl?

How do you get new records with stores dying quickly and with all the trash records in charity shops. Is sampling vinyl only even realistic now?

I havent bought any records in a while now.. Ive got 15 crates or so.. The thing that keeps it goin is that ill listen to a record today and not hear anything i feel like sampling and tomorrow ill hear all types of samples on that smae record..

I also bought a virus B so ive been making some different less sample dependent beats..

We're both infected with that syndrome :mrgreen:

I could listen to a record today and the sh!t will play in my head a day or two later with chops and loops :D