Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By Askia Shaheed Mon May 30, 2011 1:36 am
What are the pro's and con's of an IDE CF card drive vs a SCSI CF card drive?

If memory serves me correct, the MPC 2000XL last OS update was just to give it compatibility with CF card drives...meaning the MPC 2000 may not be compatible with IDE CF card drives?
By scsicardreaders.com Mon May 30, 2011 2:07 am
Are you looking at buying the MPC2000 Classic or the MPC2000XL? if you are buying a Classic, then you can only use a SCSI card reader drive, not an IDE/ATAPI drive. Only the MPC2000XL supports IDE/ATAPI drives - the Classic does not.

We have a feature on the website that shows all the suitable products for each sampler - you can use it to see what is compatible with the sampler you are thinking about buying:

http://scsicardreaders.com/selectsampler.asp
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By Askia Shaheed Mon May 30, 2011 4:15 am
scsicardreaders.com wrote:Are you looking at buying the MPC2000 Classic or the MPC2000XL? if you are buying a Classic, then you can only use a SCSI card reader drive, not an IDE/ATAPI drive. Only the MPC2000XL supports IDE/ATAPI drives - the Classic does not.

We have a feature on the website that shows all the suitable products for each sampler - you can use it to see what is compatible with the sampler you are thinking about buying:

http://scsicardreaders.com/selectsampler.asp


Ok. Confirms what I suspected. Thanks for the info. I am looking at different auctions to buy the original MPC 2000. I just want to use the sequencer.
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By Fung45 Tue May 31, 2011 4:20 am
scsicardreaders.com wrote:
Fung45 wrote:
scsicardreaders.com wrote: who uses their MPC2000 Classic for scoring films?

I do but not as a main sequencer and never needed to use SMPTE


Cool - I have done a little bit of that myself and found scoring to be an interesting way to make music. Since I do mostly instrumental fusion-type music myself, it was an okay fit. But I have a lot to learn about that sort of thing. Have you trained to do it or did you just pick it up by doing it?

I did a score for one of those Skinemax-type soft-core films a few years ago. :shock: Unfortunately, it never got released but I had fun doing it.

My brothers and I have made 2 indie features now. The first one I did with no training, but it helped as a portfolio piece and I got into a competitive audio engineering program where I got to learn from some real dudes like LOTR's music editor and Cronenberg's go to sound mixer. I've scored and mixed a second feature in my garage since then. I still don't have good location mics or pro tools but I learn more every time we make a film, and I'm only 25. My current day job is sculpting styrofoam for amusement parks and dental offices but my five year plan includes more production, scoring, recording, features and a return to the audio school for more learning.
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By deck daddy Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:05 am
Man, why is the cable hanging outside the MP??? On the 3000LE I installed an internal SCSI drive, and in the thread about it in the 60/3000 part of the forums there is pics of what parts you'll need. No cables outside, and you can still use the rear port...


Teletran1 wrote:Here's what it looks like complete and working. The first end of the ribbon cable plugs into the the first internal/external adapter. The middle connection will plug into the second which will stick out of the back as the scsi port and the third connection will plug into the card reader.

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The old scsi port will plug into the gender changer which will plug into the first internal/external adapter:

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And this is the splice between the power cords like I explained. You can get the 5.25'' drive power cable and shrink tubing at any local radio shack:

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Hope this helps!
By LADiego Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:01 pm
="deck daddy"]Man, why is the cable hanging outside the MP??? On the 3000LE I installed an internal SCSI drive, and in the thread about it in the 60/3000 part of the forums there is pics of what parts you'll need. No cables outside, and you can still use the rear port...


thanks for adding those pics. imo, this has been a most useful thread with all the added pics for the different samplers. i can see this thread has seen quite a bit of views since original post. hopefully many are benefitng.

what os are you using on the 3000LE? are you using only Sandisk flash card with that? i heard that if os is not Valixi 3.50, then this brand is the only one to use. other 3.50 os, then any brand cf can be use.

the MPC3000 and LE models are more flexible for 'modding'. the rear scsi port of the sampler is connected to a small circuit board and can be easily removed by unscrewing the 2 hex screws. and all changes can be done 'inside' the sampler. the MPC2000 is a different story. the MPC2000 rear scsi port is soldered to the mainboard and that cannot be removed so the added scsi port has to be done outside with added cables. at least, that is the explanation i got from mpcstoragesolution.com and it does make sense to us.

btw, my friend's MPC2000 with the added internal card reader is still working awesome!

peace. :D
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By Askia Shaheed Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:21 am
This site claims that it had CF drives that work with an MPC 2000s IDE port:
http://www.shopdigi.com/product.aspx?pf_id=IISDMC-Akai

Unfortunately, it is sold out. Is the technology finally there? I was hoping for years that some company releases a CF card drive that the MPC2K will treat it like it does a standard IDE floppy drive. Like...can an HDM hard drive kit for MPC 2500/1000 be modified to work in the MPC 2000 or 2000XL?

Please feel free to shed light on this subject....
By LADiego Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:02 pm
Askia Shaheed wrote:This site claims that it had CF drives that work with an MPC 2000s IDE port:
http://www.shopdigi.com/product.aspx?pf_id=IISDMC-Akai

Unfortunately, it is sold out. Is the technology finally there? I was hoping for years that some company releases a CF card drive that the MPC2K will treat it like it does a standard IDE floppy drive. Like...can an HDM hard drive kit for MPC 2500/1000 be modified to work in the MPC 2000 or 2000XL?

Please feel free to shed light on this subject....


umm, i think it has been mentioned on this thread that 'only' mpc2000xl supports ide. meaning the not the mpc2000 classic (has no ide port). i see the site mentions installing on mpc2000 but says to reference the mpc2000xl card reader installation. mpc2000 and mpc2000xl are 2 different animals. if you want an internal card reader, it will have to be a scsi one.

peace
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By Askia Shaheed Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:43 pm
LADiego wrote:
Askia Shaheed wrote:This site claims that it had CF drives that work with an MPC 2000s IDE port:
http://www.shopdigi.com/product.aspx?pf_id=IISDMC-Akai

Unfortunately, it is sold out. Is the technology finally there? I was hoping for years that some company releases a CF card drive that the MPC2K will treat it like it does a standard IDE floppy drive. Like...can an HDM hard drive kit for MPC 2500/1000 be modified to work in the MPC 2000 or 2000XL?

Please feel free to shed light on this subject....


umm, i think it has been mentioned on this thread that 'only' mpc2000xl supports ide. meaning the not the mpc2000 classic (has no ide port). i see the site mentions installing on mpc2000 but says to reference the mpc2000xl card reader installation. mpc2000 and mpc2000xl are 2 different animals. if you want an internal card reader, it will have to be a scsi one.

peace


The MPC 2000 does have an IDE port for its floppy drive. When CF card readers came into fashion, the MPC 2000 didn't support them. The OS of the MPC 2000XL was updated to support these drives as well as the later MPCs.

Lately, I was wondering if a maker of CF card readers could design a model that was similar in specs to an old floppy drive in order to be used with the MPC 2000. I stumbled upon that site that claims their IDE CF card reader will work the MPC 2000.
By LADiego Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:56 pm
Askia Shaheed wrote:
LADiego wrote:
Askia Shaheed wrote:This site claims that it had CF drives that work with an MPC 2000s IDE port:
http://www.shopdigi.com/product.aspx?pf_id=IISDMC-Akai

Unfortunately, it is sold out. Is the technology finally there? I was hoping for years that some company releases a CF card drive that the MPC2K will treat it like it does a standard IDE floppy drive. Like...can an HDM hard drive kit for MPC 2500/1000 be modified to work in the MPC 2000 or 2000XL?

Please feel free to shed light on this subject....


umm, i think it has been mentioned on this thread that 'only' mpc2000xl supports ide. meaning the not the mpc2000 classic (has no ide port). i see the site mentions installing on mpc2000 but says to reference the mpc2000xl card reader installation. mpc2000 and mpc2000xl are 2 different animals. if you want an internal card reader, it will have to be a scsi one.

peace


The MPC 2000 does have an IDE port for its floppy drive. When CF card readers came into fashion, the MPC 2000 didn't support them. The OS of the MPC 2000XL was updated to support these drives as well as the later MPCs.

Lately, I was wondering if a maker of CF card readers could design a model that was similar in specs to an old floppy drive in order to be used with the MPC 2000. I stumbled upon that site that claims their IDE CF card reader will work the MPC 2000.


yes, the mpc2000 does has a port for its floppy drive but it is not ide. ide port has 40 pin. the floppy drive has 34 pins and is IDC.

but i would love to see a working ide card reader in an mpc2000 if that is possible. as matter of fact, if anyone out there has an mpc2000 with an ide card reader, can you please post pics of the outside and more importantly the inside to see how it was done, what part was used to convert the 34 pin to 40 pin. i just do not see how that shopdigi drive would have worked with the mpc2000. i see it clearly with the mpc2000xl, though.

Askia Shaheed, much respect to you.

peace
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By mr_debauch Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:05 pm
the 2000 classic does not have a 40 pin ide/atapi connector on the motherboard. therefore you can not connect one. That was one thing they added on the XL model.

you could get one of those floppy emulator sd card readers (there was a post around here about those and the s900/950/mpc60) ... and that would connect to the 34 pin floppy connector. However that is not a card reader... it just emulates floppy images.