NDC - default amount of chop only 32?

greetings

is there a way to change the default amount of chops in NDC mode?

thanks

No, unfortunately not.

Coz wrote:No, unfortunately not.

yeah, basically you get 32, and regardless if you use em or not they are there. its not entirely a bad thing. sometimes i use them to scour the sample for interesting chunks/start points (randomly hitting pads).

Just tried the SLICE function in the NDC mode. You can reduce the amount of slices even though the amount of chops remains the same, and just use the slices as chops, you only need to limit the range of the Q-Slider. So if you've got 8 slices just limit the range from 0 to 8.

cyrus wrote:

Coz wrote:No, unfortunately not.

yeah, basically you get 32, and regardless if you use em or not they are there. its not entirely a bad thing. sometimes i use them to scour the sample for interesting chunks/start points (randomly hitting pads).

i agree, sometimes good things can come of it!

thankfully with the new update we can extract specific chops from NDC though, right?

i get so sad every time NDC is mentioned because i can't use it due to its lack of independent looping....sure wish it had the different loop modes

Nym wrote:i get so sad every time NDC is mentioned because i can't use it due to its lack of independent looping....sure wish it had the different loop modes

it's that important? what do you use it for?

^ xfade looping is essential to all my non-drum chopped samples in order to make an elastic loop that still plays correctly (each note duration lasting to the next note) even when i detune/change tempo.

i don't like having non-filled silence in between my chops because it breaks the sonic texture and sounds wrong for the organic vibe i try to go for. unless it's an obvious glitch sound i'm trying, i want it to sound as close to natural as possible, accounting for the wavering that is inherent in crossfade looping. it's a signature thing.

does that mean 'each note duration' is a permanent thing if set within a sequence? i just assumed it would extend the note lengths accordingly, but then say i shifted a few notes in any direction then it might introduce spaces again. like this (with ---- being duration):

A-------
...........B---------
........................C---------

and I moved B forward, it would give this:

A-------
...................B---------
........................C---------

is the result actually this?:

A---------------
....................B--
........................C---------

rarara wrote:i just assumed it would extend the note lengths accordingly, but then say i shifted a few notes in any direction then it might introduce spaces again. like this (with ---- being duration):

yes, it does introduce spaces again. in this case, i use SEQ EDIT - DURATION - TO NEXT NOTE
to extend the duration of the note to the successive note.
essentially, i create a MONO pgm using DURATION in the sequencer. this way the release of one pad plays as the next pad begins - it's a bit more natural sounding. definitely eats up your voices, though, esp when using xfaded stereo samples (4 voices). i dedicate at least 8 voices to my chopped sample pgms.

NOTE: there is a "bug" in SEQ EDIT - DURATION - TO NEXT NOTE: since there's no note after the last note in your sequence, its duration isn't extended. i might request that the last note gets extended to the end of the sequence instead of remaining unchanged, as it is right now.

ideally, there would be a couple additional play types: ONESHOT, NOTE ON, LOOP AND HOLD, and DURATION X where x = a user-set number of ticks

Nym wrote:^ xfade looping is essential to all my non-drum chopped samples in order to make an elastic loop that still plays correctly (each note duration lasting to the next note) even when i detune/change tempo.

i don't like having non-filled silence in between my chops because it breaks the sonic texture and sounds wrong for the organic vibe i try to go for. unless it's an obvious glitch sound i'm trying, i want it to sound as close to natural as possible, accounting for the wavering that is inherent in crossfade looping. it's a signature thing.

i appreciate getting back to me, even if i have absolutely no idea what an xfade or an elastic loop is. i understand the rest, but my technical knowledge is limited, forgive me. spare some more time on a hungry noob?

i can do you one better - audio example. you'll recognize the song.
this is an older example from one of my os2 videos, it demonstrates using alternate loop to do something similar. these days i use crossfade because it's smoother.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbqXKwXoImc

i said in this video that the mpc1000/2500 can't do realtime pitch shifting - this was before jj os introduced it. shows the age of this video.

Nym wrote:i can do you one better - audio example. you'll recognize the song.
this is an older example from one of my os2 videos, it demonstrates using alternate loop to do something similar. these days i use crossfade because it's smoother.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbqXKwXoImc

i said in this video that the mpc1000/2500 can't do realtime pitch shifting - this was before jj os introduced it. shows the age of this video.

blessings to you, Nym, i am truly grateful.

very helpful video, if not for the fact that it truly proves how much effort went into that album all the way from 2008!! i'm looking forward to playing around with the loop functions and q-link, i literally never use the q-link! also can't believe how different the os was back then.... diagonal lines WTF

ok, i see what your saying now nym. i was confused too. like wtf? seems like extra work.........but now that i see what you mean, makes sense.

so basically, crossfade or loop on each chop! man, thats some heavy shit. would be awesome.