Pro Tools 10

****! I JUST bought 9 this year! Now these **** release 10! $300 upgrade! Has some nice features I'd like to have too! But I'm gonna wait a few months!

http://www.avid.com/US/products/pro-too ... p=AV-HP-S2

OK! Just found out about 1 feature that for me is worth the $300 alone. You can record/playback from ANY storage media including networked hard drives. The is HUGE for me since my studio computer is networked to my family computer and I'm constantly sending mixes back an forth between the two to work on. With this, I can keep all the sessions on the studio computer and mix/edit from either computer without moving the files!

Then there is clip gain, which I have wanted since Pro Tools 7.4 was out, which lets you quickly adjust the gain of individual waves/regions/clips, which is also huge for me! Can't wait to upgrade now!

damn that's sick

pro tools has been playing feature catchup to other daws for as long as i've been paying attention to it
glad to see some of those no-brainer features being implemented...individual clip gain?? networked/portable storage compatibility? it's about time.

but this is a positive thing, really. it seems to me that the avid takeover has given PT a kick in the pants, i hope for the sake of all folks working under vendor lock-in that they continue to improve. good for them.

Nym wrote:pro tools has been playing feature catchup to other daws for as long as i've been paying attention to it
glad to see some of those no-brainer features being implemented...individual clip gain?? networked/portable storage compatibility? it's about time.

I was just thinking the samething.

Upgrade every year, I dont think so.

It's human nature to want the latest and greatest, but it makes you wonder...

Some of these 'upgrades' should really be free to diehard PT loyalists, but thats where Avids revenue comes from.

I'm amazed the individual clip gain hasn't been implemented before now. I'm sure you could do that in Cubase back in 2003!

clint246clint wrote:Upgrade every year, I dont think so.

It's human nature to want the latest and greatest, but it makes you wonder...

Some of these 'upgrades' should really be free to diehard PT loyalists, but thats where Avids revenue comes from.

Yeah that's pretty wack! Especially since the upgrades are so expensive. The HD upgrade for 10 is $1000!

But it now has a dope feature that actually utilizes your RAM. It can load a session onto the ram and playback from there which they say completely improves performance and session playback. Also, the session can playback multiple regions that are all different bit rates and resolutions without having to convert to the session bit rate and resolution. And a whole bunch of other shit!

I need to try Pro Tools again, last time I had the Digi 002 with PT7 a few years back.

So many changes since then...damned if I do, damned if i don't.

clint246clint wrote:
Some of these 'upgrades' should really be free to diehard PT loyalists

i agree 100%

pro tools is still the ish for audio recording, editing, mixing and mastering.

i've used just about every DAW out there...

pro tools to me... sounds the best, closest DAW to a true analog sound. it's also the easiest most straight forward DAW to use for recording and editing audio.

i'm still using pro tools 7.4 and it gets the job done. i know with pro tools 8, 9 and now 10, they are trying to compete with Logic and implementing more midi sequencing, editing, etc... options. i'd rather use ableton live for production software and bounce out the stems to pro tools for mixing and mastering. also, i midi sync my mpc, asr-10, sp-1200, etc.. to pro tools to track out beats.

logic is cool for midi production and recording audio all in one DAW, but i'll stick to pro tools. can't live without my tab to transient, nudge, hot keys for slice, consolidate, etc... you get them down and you move super quick.

i know some producers like Benny Blanco that make their beats in pro tools using just audio. placing kicks, snares, breaks and playing synths, bass, live instruments, etc... in over top. once you learn how easy it is to edit audio in pro tools, you can see how some producers would choose to work this way. it is def the King of recording and editing audio.

to each his own. use whatever works for you. for me Pro Tools 7.4 and the Waves Mercury Bundle are a must for recording, editing, mixing and mastering.

Some of the features in this upgrade look enticing for people like us who actually prefer Pro Tools. I'm comfortable with Pro Tools and actually like using it, which says a lot more to me than reading feature lists and complaining when comparing them to other DAW, even though I do use other DAW at times. That said, it's good to see Pro Tools finally getting some of the few lauded features and essentials that actually benefitted me when having used other DAW (i.e. not just the usual yearly industry-wide feature rhetoric, which PT too has a fair share of). I'm not sure if these features are worth $299 for me yet, just having upgraded to 9 last year or so. I may end up getting it but for right now Pro Tools 9 works fine coupled with MuteTone and my interfaces of choice. I'm hearing that it's way more efficient and responsive than 9 and prior but that's yet to be seen. If so, that may sell it to me.

nod records, I prefer Pro Tools also but just incase you didn't know. Logic can do tab to transient essentially by mapping "Next Transient" and "Previous Transient". It can also do nudging, slice from a single key or slice region by criteria (grid, etc), consolidate and many of the other features. I however prefer dealing with audio in Pro Tools by leaps and bounds though, for the most part, so I share your enthusiasm.

pro tools to me... sounds the best, closest DAW to a true analog sound.

beware statements like these, when it's been repeatedly shown that audio rendered from different DAWs null when one is inverted and superimposed against the other. once that has been demonstrated the argument that one sounds better than another loses all of its air. it's like saying a jpeg looks different if you open it in photoshop, gimp, paint.net, or ms paint (it will not).

any effects used or processing applied (timestretching, pitch shifting, etc) is another matter

beware statements like these

Nym

no offense homie, but that's a funny statement.

i do not work for digidesign or avid, so it makes no difference to me what DAW someone uses.

i'm just speaking from my own personal experience, taste and preference as a producer/engineer.

i was lucky enough to intern at Sigma Sound in Philadelphia (if you don't know about Sigma peep game http://www.sigmasound.com/client-list/), where i got a chance to use an SSL Console and Studer 2" tape machine. i got to hear raw recording, pre mastering, playing back off 2" tape, through an SSL Console and hear a true analog sound.

i also have worked with a bunch of producers who all use different DAW's (Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase, Nuendo, Digital Performer, etc...) and i'll tell you this... i can hear a difference with all of them. it def has to do with the soundcard used and the way the program handles and translates audio back.

i can even hear a difference when i make a beat in ableton live and bounce it out as a stereo .wav vs. taking that same beat and stemming it out to pro tools and bouncing it out as a stereo .wav. when i stem it out to pro tools the beat sounds fuller, warmer, punchier and more stereo wide, than it did playing back in ableton. i've also stemmed out ableton beats to Logic in friends studios and in Logic it sounds better too, but not as good as pro tools, in my opinion.

i think there is a noticeable difference in each DAW, but again... this is only my opinion and personal taste.

just like some people say they can't hear a difference in sound between the different models of mpc's. i can hear a difference in all of them. also, from using all kinds of analog gear over the years (mpc's, eps's, asr-10's, sp-1200's, sp-303's, roland tr-909 and tr-808's, etc...) i can hear a beat and 9 times out of 10 guess what it was made on. only thing that throws me off these days is beats done on computer software. i've done some beats in ableton, stemmed them out to pro tools, mixed and mastered them, and fooled my studio partners. they thought the beat was done in my mpc 2000XL or my mpc 60 and it was made in ableton.

at the end of the day though... who really cares?

lets just make music.

Bought PT9 this MARCH and today in my e-mail I've found... a free upgrade code from Avid. WOOT WOOT! PT 10 looks like a very nice update, can't wait to test some of the new stuff