mr_debauch wrote:
First of all I never said the maschine is better (never even mentioned it.. you brought that up) what I said is that every MPD model's pads are badly designed they should function identically to the mpc pads since they are using the same hardware (sensor sheet and rubber) yet they dont due to a design flaw. I'm sure you would have no complaints if they did it right.. would you? I think that would make them great, yet... they fail at their main task...
I never implied that you said Maschine is better. I just pointed out that in my opinion, the MPD 32 is the best pad controller on the market to include Maschine. I don't feel my MPD 32 is badly designed. I have no complaints. If I want pads like an MPC, I buy an MPC. There is very little difference (IMHO) between MPC pads and MPD pads. The difference to me lies in the fact that the MPD seats the pads in such a way they don't have the same height protruding from the faceplate as an MPC. I say this because I have MPD pads installed on my 2000XL and don't see/feel to much of a difference. As I stated earlier, I installed the fat pads on the MPC for cosmetic purposes. They look and feel great on an MPD 32. But the MPD 32 worked great right out the box. I do not define the MPD32 as a failure by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, I believe its the Trigger Finger you spoke about that is discontinued.
mr_debauch wrote:
really? point out where I called you any names, I stated a fact... anyone who thinks numark MPCs are built better than the 3000 is an idiot.. you are the one who thinks they use the same components..
Your comments were unnecessary as no one said or implied that the current MPCs are better built than the MPC 3000. Everyone knows that the MPC 3000s outer case is very solid..and heavy. The outputs and inputs have very solid connections. Outstanding product. But anyone who compares a $3000 plus MPC with a $1600 MPC is an idiot. lol In my opinion, the pads of the MPC 3000 are no more superior to the flagship MPC pads. The buttons on the MPC 3000 are plastic (like all MPCs)...the transport secton has larger buttons than newer MPCs. But I have never seen a broke plastic button. The tact switches under these buttons wear out on the MPC 3000 as frequent as the newer MPCs. This is based off my years of experience. I have never sent an Akai/Numark MPC in for repair to replace a tact switch. But I am sure some one has because tact switches eventually need to be replaced. I have sent mulitple MPC 3000s to Akai Japan to get tact switches replaced. And I have recently replaced tact switches on an MPC 2000 myself. MPCs use commonly found tact switches.
mr_debauch wrote:I was saying original akai company MPCs are better built than (with better parts than) numark mpcs... how is that absurd when it's true? Sure, maybe you paid 3000$ or 4000$ dollars for the products... but that doesn't mean they cost that now. Generally mpcs are mostly in similar price ranges.
I would expect a $3000-$4000 product to be better built than a $1600 product. But as I shown in all those You Tube videos, quite a few producers that make a living off of music are doing quite nicely with the lower cost MPCs you are here complaining about.
As I mentioned earlier, I am always willing to try out new products. And I don't need a Guitar Center employee to tell me anything. I donot hold back my feelings about any substandard product for any reason. And I will be the first person to tell anyone in these forums if I like or dislike a piece of equipment...and never have to justify a purchase. Visit the Korg Forums. I was the first one in the forum to own a Kronos. And the first to question its build quality.
mr_debauch wrote:
and yes, I do own some of the gear i'm talking about... but why would I buy something like the mpk49 knowing that the tabs holding the keys down will break off? Nobody would expect that... that is how suckers get tricked into buying that garbage quality gear... dont quote me on this, but I hear they even put a metal plate in that keyboard to make it appear heavier. (I dont know if that is true though)
I speak on items I own or use. It appears you just repeat what you have heard on the internet. SOS gave the a MPK49 favorable review. This may or may not mean something to you. But you posted links to quality issues of the MPK purchased second hand. And I posted a You Tube link of a professional studio with an MPK in it. In the end, if you buy what you feel is a crappy product, take it back. And all new products have a 1 year warranty. Depends on where you buy it from, you can get a 2-3 year warranty. I'm done talking about keyboard controllers......
mr_debauch wrote:
It's okay, I own numark products and have done shows using numark products.. that is why what I say has validity... but tell me where I said akai/numark "suks" ? (especially written like that) I never said their products are unusable.. because that is not true at all... I use them all the time to get the job done..
I said again for the record, that numark uses garbage quality components (fact) because they use the cheapest of the cheap... and that they dont design many of their products well (again, fact.. I proved it but you are a fan of popped keys and pads that dont work properly) and I also said some of their products are overall GARBAGE (written in caps and everything) because that is fact.. their mixers are definitely included in that category.. again, I know... I own one, this month I took it apart twice to mend something inside it.
If you can separate me acknowledging a company's flaw with corporate loyalty (which you have) you would see the justification I have at not being thrilled with numark... you are the emptysea of numark.
You clearly stated how you feel about Akai/Numark products in numerous threads including this one. You claim they use garbage quality products. I chimed in because I have ownsed Akai/Numark products such as the MPC 5000, 2500, and MPD32 for quite sometime and never heave I felt these products are garbage quality. Numerous producers (see the videos I posted) use these products to make music. I am sure if these products were garbage that wouldn't be using them. And all of these producers I shown videos for used older MPCs at one point or the other. That should tell you something.
I use MPCs. I don't own any other Akai/Numark product. I have no need for them. But do you know what I also own? I own the Korg Kronos...a Roland Fantom G and A90 keyboard controller (one of the best ever created)....I own Native Instrument's Maschine and Battery 3...I own Yamaha monitors...I own Technics turntable....I own both Apple and Sony computers...
You speak of corporate loyalty? My loyalty lies in quality products. I never...ever...gave the MPC 1000 great reviews. Again...I dissed that product everytime I got a chance too. Pretty much what you do here today. lol Again...I am just pointing out that you spend a lot of time bashing Akai products. Its all good. You have a right to your crusade..I guess. But save yourself some heartache. Buy or keep using an "old" Akai MPC.
By the way...I mean no disrepect to you or anyone else. I am not attacking you or upset with you for any reason. We just have a difference of opinion. I don't want anyone to sh!t a brick. Its all love.
And to not hijack the thread further (
)....the MPC 4000s keyroup sampler, its modulation matrix, and a few other things are more powerful than the MPC 5000. However...the MPC 5000s has numerous improvements that surpass the MPC 4000 especially in a live set-up. From chopping samples, hard disk recording, automation of most paramters, advanced Q-link controls, enhanced quantize/swing parameters, synth engine, etc that MPC 5000 can easily hold its weight against comparable features. Its up to the end-user what features are most important. For the record, I want an MPC that does what both these MPCs can accomplish.
as described and designed and fixes/patches for whatever little bugs remain to be quickly on the way.