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By Coz Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:48 pm
Lampdog wrote:All the 808 kits I've downloaded to check out, nope, NONE of them sound like the real thing. Even the pre-installed 808 kit on my triton extreme sounds NOTHING like the real thing. I hear ya.




I thought the 808 analogy might get ya! :lol:

Either way, the Tempest is not for everyone.
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By wudsiba Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:12 am
Are those samples or emulations? Have to say i've never been lucky enough to get my hands on a real 808, so samples can easily fool me. The Michael Fischer samples are the best I've found, and I've found them in several places. Still would love the real deal though
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By Coz Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:20 am
wudsiba wrote:Are those samples or emulations?




It comes with a "large bank of included samples" but I can't seem to find out how many. It's obvious from the videos that the 808, 909 and Linndrum samples are well catered for though. 8)
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By Askia Shaheed Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:50 am
Just finished reading the manual. An analog drum machine wouldn't get much use out of me as I prefer to use my own sounds. My feedback (without ever touching one):
1. 6 voices. Maybe this is ok for Dave's customers. But Roger's customers will most likely want at least 32 voices.
2. Digital oscillators/samples. I would much rather have an actual sampler built in to use your own sounds.
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By THE ADVERSARY Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:19 pm
Lampdog wrote:Nope, I have an 808, lol.

Tempest is not for me though.


8)
So you understand that the problem with the samples and libraries for the 808 or 909 is that they all suffer from purpose in samples.
They try to give either a generic sample or sample from their perspective.

Anyone with a 808 knows that you tweak the sample in the 808, then eq and compress it to serve your purpose or deliver the sound you are after.
When they do this with the samples in some cases it takes away harmonic content, other times it adds content.
Either affects what you have as your 808 sample.
Always found the easiest way to use my 808 was to sample it into the SP or Emax and use it from there.
The 3k was good but not the same.
Never sampled the 808 into the 4k since by then I had tons of 808 samples that I just transferred to it, but the 96k might yield results better than what people typically offer.

All this to say the best 808 samples come from being able to roll your own, unless you have a MIDI kit on your 808.
At least in my experience it was.

The could have made a lower priced analog drum machine and made some major changes in the game.
They tried to add features that drove the price in a costly direction.
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By thx Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:51 pm
that's cool
very hi tech drum machine
i've never tried it, but i think the price is not bad for all those features
wanna try it sooner as possible (but i don't know if in my town there's a shop where i can try it, here in Italy is only avaiable in Turin i guess)
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By Lampdog Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:58 pm
THE ADVERSARY wrote:sampled the 808 into the 4k

I've sampled into the 4k also and it's feels great to put the sounds through some 4k tweaks and it does take away from the original sonic sound but it's still very enjoyable.

I've also programmed the 808, audio into interface, no processing and record straight into daw, crystal clear and devistating unmatched by my triton extreme 808 kit samples. (I'm really good at recreating the plant rock bonus beat, one of my favorite beats).