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By MPCWeapon1 Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:24 pm
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I know...There's a lot more to the MPC 4000 besides its 24/96 capability. I wouldn't even compare that to another MPC. The 4k is the truth.[/quote]
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I won't talk about sound, because sound is subjective.

Some of the things I like about the 4k

1.I could hook a USB Hub to it where I can have a external hard drive for backing up files and a USB keyboard to type file names.

2. Can create Multis. I could pull up a song I did a year ago and don't have to worry about remembering which programs were assigned to which track. All I have to do is load the Multi I created for it and loads all the sounds and settings of the sequence.

3. Could autoload hundreds of sounds without putting a dent in the MP's access memory.

4. Could run old school sounds from vinyl through its deep modulation matrix and have the 4k emulate a vintage synth.

5.Could create ill bass lines from almost anything with the 6 pole filter.

6.Could change the whole dynamic of a Sequence with the the Q Link seq edit option. Could emulate a speed fade and everything.


I could go on and on. 4k is the real deal. That's just my opinion though. It fits my work flow perfectly and to me the sound is flawless. The 2500 with JJ OS XL is ill too I made hundreds of sick beats with it.
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By Askia Shaheed Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:31 am
MPCWeapon1 wrote:
I won't talk about sound, because sound is subjective.

Some of the things I like about the 4k

1.I could hook a USB Hub to it where I can have a external hard drive for backing up files and a USB keyboard to type file names.

2. Can create Multis. I could pull up a song I did a year ago and don't have to worry about remembering which programs were assigned to which track. All I have to do is load the Multi I created for it and loads all the sounds and settings of the sequence.

3. Could autoload hundreds of sounds without putting a dent in the MP's access memory.

4. Could run old school sounds from vinyl through its deep modulation matrix and have the 4k emulate a vintage synth.

5.Could create ill bass lines from almost anything with the 6 pole filter.

6.Could change the whole dynamic of a Sequence with the the Q Link seq edit option. Could emulate a speed fade and everything.


I could go on and on. 4k is the real deal. That's just my opinion though. It fits my work flow perfectly and to me the sound is flawless. The 2500 with JJ OS XL is ill too I made hundreds of sick beats with it.


I don't believe you can go on and on. You hit all the major functions that an MPC 4000 has minus one of my favorites...the Quick FX for sampling.

I want to point out that you said you won't talk about sound because it is subjective...but then you write the sound is flawless. :P
By Minamoto Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:39 pm
Ok, so, the only difference (that I'm actually concerned about) between the 1000 and 2500 is:

1000 = 4 analog outs
2500 = 8

1000 = 2 MIDI outs
2500 = 4

What are some combinations/benefits of using analog outs? I could have kick, snare, high hat, and some other sample going out the 4 analog outs, and then a stereo sample going out the L and R, correct? Or I could bypass the analog outs altogether and mix internally? Gimme some knowledgez!
By dtaa pla muk Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:54 am
depending on how many inputs your sound card has, the more outputs for your mpc the better. it's just handier for tracking out and mixing stuff in your DAW as you write your song. of if you have a lot of outboard gear you could set up submixes through that.
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By MPCWeapon1 Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:04 am
Askia Shaheed wrote:
MPCWeapon1 wrote:
I won't talk about sound, because sound is subjective.

Some of the things I like about the 4k

1.I could hook a USB Hub to it where I can have a external hard drive for backing up files and a USB keyboard to type file names.

2. Can create Multis. I could pull up a song I did a year ago and don't have to worry about remembering which programs were assigned to which track. All I have to do is load the Multi I created for it and loads all the sounds and settings of the sequence.

3. Could autoload hundreds of sounds without putting a dent in the MP's access memory.

4. Could run old school sounds from vinyl through its deep modulation matrix and have the 4k emulate a vintage synth.

5.Could create ill bass lines from almost anything with the 6 pole filter.

6.Could change the whole dynamic of a Sequence with the the Q Link seq edit option. Could emulate a speed fade and everything.


I could go on and on. 4k is the real deal. That's just my opinion though. It fits my work flow perfectly and to me the sound is flawless. The 2500 with JJ OS XL is ill too I made hundreds of sick beats with it.


I don't believe you can go on and on. You hit all the major functions that an MPC 4000 has minus one of my favorites...the Quick FX for sampling.

I want to point out that you said you won't talk about sound because it is subjective...but then you write the sound is flawless. :P



LOL yeah, I had to refer to the sound..but the flawless sound is just my opinion.

You know people go crazy over JJ OS XL and rightfully so...it's awesome...But What that OS does is make the MPC 2500/1000 emulate a 4k..with better chopping. The OS is based on the MPC 4000. You can't front on the 4k.
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By Askia Shaheed Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:04 am
MPCWeapon1 wrote:
You know people go crazy over JJ OS XL and rightfully so...it's awesome...But What that OS does is make the MPC 2500/1000 emulate a 4k..with better chopping. The OS is based on the MPC 4000. You can't front on the 4k.

In what way? I don't see anything obvious that the JJ OS XL emulates the 4K outside of the typical features most MPCs have.
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By Askia Shaheed Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:36 am
MPCWeapon1 wrote:Grid mode, Q Link seq edit, modulation matrix, And keygroups..


Really? That is like saying that MPC 4000 emulates the MPC 2000XL because it has graphic waveform editing, resampling, timestrecth and pitch shifting, etc. Yes, the OS of the MPC 4000 is based upon the MPCs before it. Any MPC released in the future will most likely be based upon current and legacy MPCs.
By Minamoto Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:27 pm
Don't mean to be rude, but this is not a thread about the MPC 4000.

If you have something to contribute to my most recent question, it would be much appreciated.
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By konc3pt Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:17 pm
Askia Shaheed wrote:
MPCWeapon1 wrote:Grid mode, Q Link seq edit, modulation matrix, And keygroups..


Really? That is like saying that MPC 4000 emulates the MPC 2000XL because it has graphic waveform editing, resampling, timestrecth and pitch shifting, etc. Yes, the OS of the MPC 4000 is based upon the MPCs before it. Any MPC released in the future will most likely be based upon current and legacy MPCs.


so 5000 got Grid mode, Q Link seq edit, modulation matrix, And keygroups ?
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By Askia Shaheed Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:27 am
Minamoto wrote:Don't mean to be rude, but this is not a thread about the MPC 4000.

If you have something to contribute to my most recent question, it would be much appreciated.


And you are right. This is not about the MPC 4000 or 5000...so no more comments from me about those MPCs in this thread. :D
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By Askia Shaheed Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:58 pm
konc3pt wrote::roll: guess not :mrgreen: :lol:

You can always create a new MPC 4000 thread to continue the discussion. :)
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By Peesnuts Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:17 am
Personally, I'm still a fan of hands on everything, I even like setting my own gates and stuff live... (but that has nothing to do with an MP)

Buuuuuuut with respect to your question, you could drive your car over a 2000xl and it would probably still work fine. It is a bit lower resolution so you're more likely to like where your sounds fall.

I think nowadays a 2500 is a better buy, it does everything that you'll "wish" your XL would do, plus you can sample while you play back your beat, you have a HIGH PASS eq, and larger/faster storage.

I am keeping my XL forever, but if I was in the market, I'd snatch a 2500 or a 5000. Hit up your local music store, maybe they have something in store you can bang on.
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By Lampdog Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:56 pm
Peesnuts wrote:Buuuuuuut with respect to your question, you could drive your car over a 2000xl and it would probably still work fine.

Lemme borrow yours and test this 2kxl durability out.





jk