J Dilla halftime trick

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Re: J Dilla halftime trick

By JVC Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:16 pm
Yeah, I don't think it should be called Dilla trick at all. (Actually OP never said that it was Dilla's OWN technique.) I heard that many keyboardists use this, but disadvantage is that you can't use swing correction on MPC.

If you are using MV-8000/8800, MPC-4000, MPC-5000, or Yamaha RM1x, it is not even necessary to do that, since those sequencers have better resolutions than 96PPQ.
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Re: J Dilla halftime trick

By Lampdog Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:05 am
ArKyve-31 wrote:resample the whole sequence, assign as sample to a pad and detune to fit sequence


Ingenuity at it's best, create/make a function that doesn't exist.

That's that black belt MPC-fu right thurr..
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Re: J Dilla halftime trick

By thx Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:48 am
ArKyve-31 wrote:I'm confused, are guys referring to for example, all my beats are made at lets say 180 bpm 32 bars, but are really 90 bpm at 16 bars? if so that's not a "dilla" trick at all. Most ppl I know do their tracks like that, helps with the ppq


yeah sometimes i use this trick with the sp1200
old skool trick

Re: J Dilla halftime trick

By JVC Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:50 am
TreCipher617 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIdHF8bkys8

go to the 1 minute mark

You should know the original sample, which is Jackson 5 "All I Do Is Think Of You", which is very slow tempo song.
On "The Donut Of The Heart.", I think Dilla chopped the samples very small to pitch up tempo. Each sample chops are at most half beat length.
Then around the middle of the beat, the tempo is slowed down to the same tempo (or close to the same tempo.), therefore, no time stretch is necessary.
I don't think Dilla used his MPC-3000 for this beat, I believe he used Protools (he made those beats when he was in hospital. "Donuts" were made on his laptop.)
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Re: J Dilla halftime trick

By ArKyve-31 Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:48 am
TreCipher617 wrote:
ArKyve-31 wrote:
TreCipher617 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIdHF8bkys8

go to the 1 minute mark


resample the whole sequence, assign as sample to a pad and detune to fit sequence


but then it wouldnt be the same pitch



sorry for the double post, the if you don't want it to be a different pitch go to the sample edit window and Pitch adjust up by whatever number you detuned down to
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Re: J Dilla halftime trick

By Menco Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:08 pm
thx wrote:
ArKyve-31 wrote:I'm confused, are guys referring to for example, all my beats are made at lets say 180 bpm 32 bars, but are really 90 bpm at 16 bars? if so that's not a "dilla" trick at all. Most ppl I know do their tracks like that, helps with the ppq


yeah sometimes i use this trick with the sp1200
old skool trick


Same story with the sped up soul technique. People saying that's Kanye's trick.
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Re: J Dilla halftime trick

By ArKyve-31 Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:04 pm
Menco wrote:
thx wrote:
ArKyve-31 wrote:I'm confused, are guys referring to for example, all my beats are made at lets say 180 bpm 32 bars, but are really 90 bpm at 16 bars? if so that's not a "dilla" trick at all. Most ppl I know do their tracks like that, helps with the ppq


yeah sometimes i use this trick with the sp1200
old skool trick


Same story with the sped up soul technique. People saying that's Kanye's trick.



:lol: I hate when cats say that, anyone with low sample time have always done that to save space

Re: J Dilla halftime trick

By séance Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:14 pm
Lampdog wrote:
ArKyve-31 wrote:resample the whole sequence, assign as sample to a pad and detune to fit sequence


Ingenuity at it's best, create/make a function that doesn't exist.

That's that black belt MPC-fu right thurr..


Really? I do that all the time. I guess it's because I've been a DJ for much longer than I've been a producer, it's so simple to create a sequence and beat match it by tuning than it is to try and timestretch or tune individual samples. It sounds much more organic to resample and re-pitch the entire sequence.
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Re: J Dilla halftime trick

By Lampdog Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:25 pm
Oh yeah, that's still mpc-fu your doing. anytime you make your mpc do something that it wasn't designed to and get away with it is some next level shyt to me. It's good that people have a good arsenal of tricks they come up, even if some are old, they still work.

I was a dj to, not since a LONG time ago though. From what i've seen, Dj's make the better producers, imo.

Because of juggling records and pitches forever, they are just adept at handling such things with ease.
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