Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
By zeeno0987 Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:00 pm
The MPC represents Hip Hop. In no shape form or fashion, I am not a endorser of Akai.This is my thoughts and experience with the MPC. I used the MPC when it first came out and witnessed it blossomed into this.Some may have jumped on board around the 3000,2000,1000,or 2500.I can't count how many times I had one and sold it. I remember selling D-Dot my MPC 60 when he was Howard because I loved my SP1200 more.But what kept me coming back to the MPC was how tight the sequencer was.People say that it has a swing like no other but it's how tight the sequencer records that people love. I got into software early 10 years ago and missed the tightness of the sequencer that most DAWS don't offer.I bought Maschine in hopes to get that tightness of a sequencer that the MPC had and was dissappointed and sold Maschine.I love working in software but maschine sequencer was buggy to me but yet FL studio sequence was tight as Maschine.But after going from software back to MPC I felt limited because instead of chopping a sample into 40 or 80 pieces in software effortlessly, I was going back to the 16 or 32 chop cycle of hardware which is not how i chop.I had my thoughts set on the 5000 mths ago because of its chopping ability but the new MPC just threw a monkey wrench into that.I also know that Akai hasn't played fair with customers like when the 5000 was demoed at NAAM when it was released they had dudes doing techno beats for the demo which your brand was built on Hip Hop.(no disrespect to other music). But to get to the point this MPC represents Akai's cement footprint inside the computer along side or above the Gurus,Batterys, Maschines, and kontakts. Think about it,No more tracking out,pluggins on everything,the same sequencer but in software and not much of a learning curve.This is what most ex MPC users who converted to software have been waiting for.As for Maschine,N.I will have problems because they offered the only integrated hardware software setup which we jump on because it was the only one out that was somewhat MPCish.But know we have this coming which should change the whole playing field and expose Maschine for it's flaws that many will come to see when the new MPC is here.Just my 2 cents and yes the MPC is used for all forms of music not just Hip Hop.
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By JAH Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:47 pm
Maschine was only an option because there was nothing else out there...it gave you a pseudo MPC workflow. In a few months, it will become obsolete for me because I no longer have to deal with its limitations. Maschine is a Groovebox that NI developed into a pseudo workstation. The MPC Ren/Studio is taking the MPC workstation and putting it inside your computer. They key word is workstation...real tracks...real mixer...easy implementation of adding insert and send effects...sample editing and MIDI capabilities that all workstations should have. Maschine will disappear unless NI addresses many of these issues in a new controller and improved software.
By labcoats Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:55 pm
I think Ni will basically ditch Maschine over a long period of time and start making synth hardware just as Artuaria are doing. Korgs monotribe has been a phenomenal success and any manufacturer would be mad to ignore the sales numbers. Ren and Ren Studio both blow Maschine away in terms of features and integration. NI must be sitting there thinking whats the point of trying to take Akai on.

Once a software product is out there the continued man power required to for enldess rounds of updates takes its toll on a company and lets face it, updates are not profitable. hardware doesnt have quite the same problem.

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for the record I may not make Hip Hop, but I totally appreciate it. I could of course try and pass my self off and churn out a few beats. But nah, gotta be true to what you are. I will leave the making of Hip Hop to those who live , eat, and sleep the genre. 8)
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By Explicit- Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:07 pm
zeeno0987 wrote:The MPC represents Hip Hop. In no shape form or fashion, I am not a endorser of Akai.This is my thoughts and experience with the MPC. I used the MPC when it first came out and witnessed it blossomed into this.Some may have jumped on board around the 3000,2000,1000,or 2500.I can't count how many times I had one and sold it. I remember selling D-Dot my MPC 60 when he was Howard because I loved my SP1200 more.But what kept me coming back to the MPC was how tight the sequencer was.People say that it has a swing like no other but it's how tight the sequencer records that people love. I got into software early 10 years ago and missed the tightness of the sequencer that most DAWS don't offer.I bought Maschine in hopes to get that tightness of a sequencer that the MPC had and was dissappointed and sold Maschine.I love working in software but maschine sequencer was buggy to me but yet FL studio sequence was tight as Maschine.But after going from software back to MPC I felt limited because instead of chopping a sample into 40 or 80 pieces in software effortlessly, I was going back to the 16 or 32 chop cycle of hardware which is not how i chop.I had my thoughts set on the 5000 mths ago because of its chopping ability but the new MPC just threw a monkey wrench into that.I also know that Akai hasn't played fair with customers like when the 5000 was demoed at NAAM when it was released they had dudes doing techno beats for the demo which your brand was built on Hip Hop.(no disrespect to other music). But to get to the point this MPC represents Akai's cement footprint inside the computer along side or above the Gurus,Batterys, Maschines, and kontakts. Think about it,No more tracking out,pluggins on everything,the same sequencer but in software and not much of a learning curve.This is what most ex MPC users who converted to software have been waiting for.As for Maschine,N.I will have problems because they offered the only integrated hardware software setup which we jump on because it was the only one out that was somewhat MPCish.But know we have this coming which should change the whole playing field and expose Maschine for it's flaws that many will come to see when the new MPC is here.Just my 2 cents and yes the MPC is used for all forms of music not just Hip Hop.


Have you guys noticed how many new accounts have come in with so much knowledge about gear in the last couple weeks since the Ren was announced???

All these dudes with 1 to 5 posts and they immediately start praising Akai.

Well... I dont know about you guys but Im sure some of these new accounts are fakes!

Im used to seeing majority of our new members come in here asking how to turn on their MIDI or how to sample. :lol:
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By QUALMS Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:20 pm
Explicit- wrote:
zeeno0987 wrote:The MPC represents Hip Hop. In no shape form or fashion, I am not a endorser of Akai.This is my thoughts and experience with the MPC. I used the MPC when it first came out and witnessed it blossomed into this.Some may have jumped on board around the 3000,2000,1000,or 2500.I can't count how many times I had one and sold it. I remember selling D-Dot my MPC 60 when he was Howard because I loved my SP1200 more.But what kept me coming back to the MPC was how tight the sequencer was.People say that it has a swing like no other but it's how tight the sequencer records that people love. I got into software early 10 years ago and missed the tightness of the sequencer that most DAWS don't offer.I bought Maschine in hopes to get that tightness of a sequencer that the MPC had and was dissappointed and sold Maschine.I love working in software but maschine sequencer was buggy to me but yet FL studio sequence was tight as Maschine.But after going from software back to MPC I felt limited because instead of chopping a sample into 40 or 80 pieces in software effortlessly, I was going back to the 16 or 32 chop cycle of hardware which is not how i chop.I had my thoughts set on the 5000 mths ago because of its chopping ability but the new MPC just threw a monkey wrench into that.I also know that Akai hasn't played fair with customers like when the 5000 was demoed at NAAM when it was released they had dudes doing techno beats for the demo which your brand was built on Hip Hop.(no disrespect to other music). But to get to the point this MPC represents Akai's cement footprint inside the computer along side or above the Gurus,Batterys, Maschines, and kontakts. Think about it,No more tracking out,pluggins on everything,the same sequencer but in software and not much of a learning curve.This is what most ex MPC users who converted to software have been waiting for.As for Maschine,N.I will have problems because they offered the only integrated hardware software setup which we jump on because it was the only one out that was somewhat MPCish.But know we have this coming which should change the whole playing field and expose Maschine for it's flaws that many will come to see when the new MPC is here.Just my 2 cents and yes the MPC is used for all forms of music not just Hip Hop.


Have you guys noticed how many new accounts have come in with so much knowledge about gear in the last couple weeks since the Ren was announced???

All these dudes with 1 to 5 posts and they immediately start praising Akai.

Well... I dont know about you guys but Im sure some of these new accounts are fakes!

Im used to seeing majority of our new members come in here asking how to turn on their MIDI or how to sample. :lol:


Join date 2007 and only 4 posts? HA!
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By Lampdog Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:40 pm
QUALMS wrote:Join date 2007 and only 4 posts? HA!

I was just about to say the same thing. Some of them have "known" about the forums for a while.
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By JAH Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:51 am
distortedtekno wrote:Yeah I noticed the same **** lately.


Or maybe long time members just changed their user name......like me :lol:
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By emptysea Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:15 am
labcoats wrote:I think Ni will basically ditch Maschine over a long period of time and start making synth hardware just as Artuaria are doing. Korgs monotribe has been a phenomenal success and any manufacturer would be mad to ignore the sales numbers.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

labcoats wrote:Ren and Ren Studio both blow Maschine away in terms of features and integration. NI must be sitting there thinking whats the point of trying to take Akai on.

Wow. Some serious fanboy denial going on there. Did you notice that you're talking about an unfinished prototype that Akai is hyping up because they're trying to catch up to Maschine? :P
By Mistamixx Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:01 am
JAH wrote:Maschine was only an option because there was nothing else out there...it gave you a pseudo MPC workflow. In a few months, it will become obsolete for me because I no longer have to deal with its limitations. Maschine is a Groovebox that NI developed into a pseudo workstation. The MPC Ren/Studio is taking the MPC workstation and putting it inside your computer. They key word is workstation...real tracks...real mixer...easy implementation of adding insert and send effects...sample editing and MIDI capabilities that all workstations should have. Maschine will disappear unless NI addresses many of these issues in a new controller and improved software.

I've watched the namm video's of the Ren and Studio, the controllers look good, but THE SOFTWARE ISN'T FULLY OPERATIONAL!!! News Flash! Akai's track record when it comes to software/updates isn't the greatest. Don't get me wrong! i want the new line to workout, but anybody that thinks akai can compete with Native instruments in the software department is crazy! maybe one day but not now! The deal with Izotope is a good start. You can bet timestreching and a bunch of other features will be added to maschine's software before akai is ready to ship the Ren/Studio/Fly.
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By DJ Hellfire Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:06 am
emptysea wrote:
labcoats wrote:I think Ni will basically ditch Maschine over a long period of time and start making synth hardware just as Artuaria are doing. Korgs monotribe has been a phenomenal success and any manufacturer would be mad to ignore the sales numbers.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

labcoats wrote:Ren and Ren Studio both blow Maschine away in terms of features and integration. NI must be sitting there thinking whats the point of trying to take Akai on.

Wow. Some serious fanboy denial going on there. Did you notice that you're talking about an unfinished prototype that Akai is hyping up because they're trying to catch up to Maschine? :P



I don't know about Maschine meeting it's demise, but I can say that this is exactly what I wanted in an MPC; the ability to edit my notes in a piano roll environment after recording them, as well as ITB tracking (or at least more than 8 channels; Maschine gives you 32). All the VST shit I could care less about because I was always able to do it within Pro Tools. But it is nice to have it integrated. Anyway, my point is that if Akai nails this, I will definitely be ditching Maschine. Not because I don't like Maschine, but MPC is just so familiar. I feel like it's my roots. But I still do love Maschine too. Just can't see myself using both. I'm not loyal to any brand, only my needs! 8)
By zeeno0987 Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:21 am
labcoats wrote:I dont make Hip Hop. Dont be a music fascist dude.




No I am not a fascist,and I don't mean to offend I like all forms of music(having a lot of records at your disposal opens you up to different genres,I grew up when MTV only showed rock)lol

The reason I said that about the MPC 5000 demo is because if you can remember when Ableton use to do demos they geared (live) toward dance and techno but everybody used it and the same can be said about Reason too at first.But Akai brand was built off of hip hop and everything else came with it and Now nothing can be geared towards a certain genre because anything is being made with anything.But that does not mean that hip hop owns it all electronic based music does because the MPC was furniture fixture in most studios through the 90's beyond