Saint Joe At Akai Stand

JAH wrote:

MPC-Tutor wrote:

JAH wrote:I hear everything you guys are saying. "Some" of you made some valid points. And there is no denying that companies should provide solid support for their products. But the nature of software is that it will never be perfect...never.

Oh, I agree, there's always going to be problems with software, that's the nature of the beast. However, I think it helps greatly if the company deals with such issues with a high level of transparency - that's the differentiator. For example, actually publicly acknowledging that the bugs exist, telling the customers what they plan to do about them, letting them know how they are getting on with the solution etc.

Basically openly engaging with their customers over the problems. In these cases, customers tend to be more understanding about the issues the company may be facing in solving the bugs and other issues.

As an MPC fanatic, I hope this forum builds a better relationship with Akai. I would like to see continued development of MPC products and their software.

Agree, 100%.

I agree with every word you said 1000%.

However...the nature of these forums, this one in particular, makes it extremely difficult to have an open dialog. We have members here whose sole purpose for living (it seems) is to be negative regarding anything Numark/Akai. "Hey..we just got a new OS update from JJ! Love you JJ....**** NuKai!" Why would a product specialist spend his/her busy days in an unofficial forum with this rampant behavior? In the past we had an opportunity for open dialog. This was a missed opportunity as the Akai rep was pretty much ran out of the forums.

Korg has an unofficial user's forum. Korg product specialists are active members and do contribute what they can. Although there are similar complaints about certain Korg products, in my opinion, it comes no where close to the frenzy you see here. When the MPC 5000 was released, only a handful of us purchased them. But a majority of the complaints were from individuals that didn't own the MPC 5000. Everyone knows the rest of the story.

To wrap this up....a little respect goes a long way. Nothing will be gained by being disrespectful.

JAH wrote:

DJ Hellfire wrote:This is true. But what I'm saying is at least these other companies make an effort to fix ****.

.....So a hardware product at the prices you pay from an iconic blood line should be just about perfect.

Really?

Roland Fantom G ($2500). I have owned this keyboard for 4 years. It has had like 2 updates and only one of them was useful...meaning it added multisampling and an undo button. It replaces the Fantom X but Roland stripped down its sampling capabilities. How do you go from haveing 96 chops to only 16? I went from being able to chop and automap to a patch to not having this function at all. It is the worst supporting Roland workstation in history. They gave us ARX card support but then didn't give us only 3 ARX cards ($400+ ea). There are dozens of SRX and JV cards for their other workstations. Roland refuses to update the Fantom G's plugin editor so it will work properly with Window's 7. Roland still sells this keyboard but have no interest in supporting it. Visit http://forums.rolandclan.com/viewforum.php?f=29 to read all other gripes.

Korg Kronos ($3000). I have owned this keyboard for 8 months. It has had 1 update. The Kronos was advertised with plugin capabilities and includes and editor. Korg later retracted that and have yet to make good on it. Build quality and bugs have been a serious headache. My data wheel fell off after using in 2 days and it wouldn't stay in place. Korg secured the data wheel with 2 sided tape. The redesigned the wheel and used velcrow. Numerous users have broken keybeds. My motherboard just died and Korg doesn't have the parts readily available to fix it. So I am without my $3000 workstation. Even with the OS updates, there are a few bugs that need to be addressed. You can visit http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... 8bd80a111d to read other gripes.

DAWs. Take your pick from any of the leading ones and visit their forums. You will see numerous posts about bugs only being fixed via paid updates. I used Nuendo 1 - 4. This was common. Visit http://www.nuendo.com


These are all perfect examples. There are more but I only talk about products that I own.

DJ Hellfire wrote:

I meant on the software side, companies make an attempt to provide bug fixes. At least the software I own. But software for computers is just so much more complicated. I'd expect some minor bugs between releases, but actual updates do tend to be much more frequent than any MPC I've owned.

But hardware, like I said, should be much simpler to keep as bug free as possible. I think the thing now is that hardware pieces do so much more than they did years ago. I guess it could be more complicated, but still shouldn't be as complicated as an actual computer app, IMO!

JAH wrote:If it was dropping next week, I would know and mine would me on preorder already...like every MPC that is released.

MPCs are like Jordans for me.

JAH wrote:It's part of my fiscal year budget. I keep 3 stacks for a new MPC. $1500 is a reasonable price. I'll have an extra $1500 for something else. Make it a $1K....I can get a Mac Pro too. Im old skool. I just feel that professional tools shouldn't be priced for all consumers to afford.

emptysea wrote:

JAH wrote:If it was dropping next week, I would know and mine would me on preorder already...like every MPC that is released.

MPCs are like Jordans for me.

JAH wrote:It's part of my fiscal year budget. I keep 3 stacks for a new MPC. $1500 is a reasonable price. I'll have an extra $1500 for something else. Make it a $1K....I can get a Mac Pro too. Im old skool. I just feel that professional tools shouldn't be priced for all consumers to afford.

JAH wrote:

emptysea wrote:

JAH wrote:If it was dropping next week, I would know and mine would me on preorder already...like every MPC that is released.

MPCs are like Jordans for me.

JAH wrote:It's part of my fiscal year budget. I keep 3 stacks for a new MPC. $1500 is a reasonable price. I'll have an extra $1500 for something else. Make it a $1K....I can get a Mac Pro too. Im old skool. I just feel that professional tools shouldn't be priced for all consumers to afford.

I was serious.

Look..I can't be converted into using something else. And I enjoy are exchanges. Its nothing personal...just having fun in the forums. So guys chillout...its not that serious. I haven't insulted anyone.

Its just like the NI Forums. It was so quiet around here. The MPC Ren/Studio hase people coming out of their shells and back to the forum. Its a good thing.

And to clarify my statement regarding prices....everyone doesn't need a pair of Jordans. MPC...same thing.

Mr Varsity wrote:Saint Joe At Akai Stand Parts 3 & 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61qIn2TMBFE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbBu_D-lfgo

JAH wrote:

Mr Varsity wrote:Saint Joe At Akai Stand Parts 3 & 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61qIn2TMBFE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbBu_D-lfgo

I found it funny when they were talking about breaking the buttons. I have rarely since this. While tact switches wear out eventually, I can remember seeing many people break the plastic buttons.

DJ Hellfire wrote:

Really? Them **** are broken on my XL. The ones for play, play start, and stop. Them **** broke after a couple years! Not really a big deal because the case still holds them in place.