less chops, better results?

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Re: less chops, better results?

By konc3pt Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:47 pm
there is really no wrong or right way of chopping samples....I'd say smaller chops give overall better control...while longer are jusst well, loops...
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Re: less chops, better results?

By -niN Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:52 pm
longer chops are NOT necesarilly loops... like I said.. i like longer chops cutting each other off..
The chop may be 1/2 a bar long but will be cut off after 1/16 or whatever.. maybe 1/16 tripplet.. whatever I feel like playing :nod:
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Re: less chops, better results?

By jonestown massacre Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:38 pm
-niN wrote:longer chops are NOT necesarilly loops... like I said.. i like longer chops cutting each other off..
The chop may be 1/2 a bar long but will be cut off after 1/16 or whatever.. maybe 1/16 tripplet.. whatever I feel like playing :nod:



Dope method. Similar results to velocity->note start, with more control over chop placement.
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Re: less chops, better results?

By konc3pt Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:08 pm
-niN wrote:longer chops are NOT necesarilly loops... like I said.. i like longer chops cutting each other off..
The chop may be 1/2 a bar long but will be cut off after 1/16 or whatever.. maybe 1/16 tripplet.. whatever I feel like playing :nod:


you're right it's about the application, not the material

Re: less chops, better results?

By dtaa pla muk Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:54 pm
i only work with oneshots in the mpc. if i'm using a phrase sample, i'm doing it in REAPER every time.

if the sample is open enough (just one instrument) i chop it note by note and freak the grid. original feel is easy to get back if you have good timing/editing skills. if the sample is too busy with multiple instruments or fast, rhythmic plucking, i warp it in REAPER and then resample it as an audio track.

in the MPC, phrase samples limit you too much when you change tempos. they make you commit to a tempo too early.

autochop is useless. chop at the transients and win at making beats.
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Re: less chops, better results?

By es-k Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:03 am
Nym wrote:i only work with oneshots in the mpc. if i'm using a phrase sample, i'm doing it in REAPER every time.


do u run the two of the them sync'd together all the time?

Re: less chops, better results?

By dtaa pla muk Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:24 am
nah, i only sync when i track out. if i need something in reaper, i altstretch it there and then record it as an audio track in my MPC

reaper serves as a macrosampler, vsti host, mixer, midi controller, and fx unit until i track out, when it takes over everything.
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Re: less chops, better results?

By es-k Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:04 pm
Nym wrote:reaper serves as a macrosampler, vsti host, mixer, midi controller, and fx unit until i track out, when it takes over everything.



do you re-sample into mpc? :smoker: thats what i used to do with reason mpc combo. .. i never actually sync'd them but ran them at the same bpm and would sample reason into the mpc as if it was an instrument. is this what you're doing with reaper? untill, like you said, you track out
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Re: less chops, better results?

By Roger Nodge Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:43 pm
poundaproblem wrote:I've been on both sides of this issue. In general I like to chop more although there are times when an 8 bar loop is just so dope that it needs to be left as is.

Agreed, for me what I'm sampling and what I want to do with it dictates how long or short the chops are, nothing else. That's why Autochop never works for me.
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Re: less chops, better results?

By sirparksalot Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:37 pm
es-k wrote:if u chop right, quarter note chops should be just fine


This is what I do 99% of the time. This way you can get the snares to line up, etc even if the sample isn't exactly beat matched. I just chop in logic so that I can quickly loop back my chops start points and make sure it's ok.

Re: less chops, better results?

By galganael Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:58 pm
Lampdog wrote:What you said makes perfect sense to me.
I prefer my own chops, no automatic anything. No equal 1/8 or 1/4 chops.
I want control of every note for my own pad bang pleasure. I remember Nym
was saying the same thing a while back, it's just what I'm used to. But everyone has
to find what works for them and run with that

There's not a rule for how many chops.


I do this AND chop in increments. It all depends on the sample, and what type of music. Sometimes i want individual cuts (i like those strings, and these horns, and that part of the vocals), and sometimes i'm lazy and just chop up a loop. Be crazy, EXPERIMENT!
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Re: less chops, better results?

By Menco Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:08 pm
poundaproblem wrote:I've been on both sides of this issue. In general I like to chop more although there are times when an 8 bar loop is just so dope that it needs to be left as is. At the end of the day who cares....just make dope beats.



True that. Like shorty in the club will say: I ain't dancing to this, cause this beat is just a loop instead of a flipped sample.

Maybe only us beatmakers who recognize the sample will say: 'this beat is kinda lame cause he just straight up looped that shit'.

My opinion is to just chop it how you want it for that specific piece of music.
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