Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By Clint Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:47 pm
konc3pt wrote:more sample time, more polyphony, ability to have access to multiple kits at once, different sound, few reasons that come to mind


I agree.

But also to experience the other machines, you usually have to buy them.

Try making the same beat on different machines, that's a challenge which will expose the limitations of the older machines and also help improve your production skills.

Get one of the OG Linn machines in your multi-mpc setup and most wont want to let it go. But you also have cats with little patience or interest in nostalgia, they want everything done as quickly as possible, auto chop, patch phrase, synths, USB, etc etc...

Each to his own really.
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By Lampdog Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:09 pm
clint246clint wrote:Try making the same beat on different machines

I've tried that several times, on 2kxl, 4k and triton extreme.

Same samples, totally different feel.
By Clint Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:57 am
Lampdog wrote:
clint246clint wrote:Try making the same beat on different machines



Same samples, totally different feel.


+1
By perilousselector Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:00 pm
I've been seriously considering a 2000xl to go with my 3000..it may sound silly buying a downgrade, but i would only use the 2000 for chopping samples into many pieces with the visual waves (which i prefer for 32 part chops!) and then track muting and experimenting as someone mentioned...all sequencing, drums and short samples will be on the 3000...any opinions on this idea? i know the 2000xl won't sound as gritty, but for some music i make (ie not hip hop) it would be good to have a cleaner sound for the melodic samples (drums to be 3000 gritty all the way of course)...anyway you can always resample the 3000 into the 2000 or vice versa right?
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By jonestown massacre Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:21 pm
^^^^imo, other than the sound quality, and the "Linn Swing", the 2KXL has way more features than the 3000...wouldn't be fair to call it a "downgrade" at all.


Also, the XL can only chop a sample to a maximum of 16 parts.
By ultra auris Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:37 pm
i also keep ones as my 2nd stringers. you never know when your QB might get his leg broken... I just had my 60 have to go away for a month and it was great to have a backup ready to go in the closet.
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By DPM Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:47 am
i started out on the mpc 500 and i've been using the mpc 1000 for about 2 months now...and i honestly cant see myself NEEDING another MPC. it does everything i need it to do.

although i run a very cookie cutter setup i really DONT need anything else.

plus i dont like having a lot of sh1t plugged up at once lol
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By sirparksalot Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:03 am
Like Clint and Lamp....I use my 4000 and 3000 for different things. If I want to make a lot of chops and add a lot of my own one hits out of my drum library, I will work with my 4000(most of my stuff). If I just want to get down with some loops and drum breaks....I knock the dust off the 3k and get busy. Also, if I mess with a sample on the 3000 compared to the 4000.....the 3k makes me think a little bit more. It's more of a **** when it comes to chopping, but it makes you listen better to where your chops are going. Honestly, it doesn't get much simpler than the 3000. Yes, you are limited, but if you are working strictly with samples, it's all you need. I find choppin without wave form data in front of you simpler and dope. If I had to choose one machine for the rest of my life, it'd probably be the 3k just because of simplicity, build quality, and DAT ASS(I need to sleep...)
By Clint Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:35 pm
I suppose you could also ask, why have more than one of anything?

The reality is that if you have deep pockets you can afford to have more than one MPC, if you don't have deep pockets one MPC will do just fine.

MPC's are all different, so having more than one will always bring more to the party. Even having two of the same model can increase your capability depending on your particular workflow.

And there are the collectors who stockpile 60's and 3000's so you can't have one...they give a better return than any bank I know of. :wink:
By perilousselector Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:50 pm
"I suppose you could also ask, why have more than one of anything?...And there are the collectors who stockpile 60's and 3000's so you can't have one...they give a better return than any bank I know of.."

i think you're biased on this issue clint :-D

sorry i didn't mean to call the 2000xl a downgrade.. you're right it's a more modern machine with more features.. just that alot of people would be satisfied with the 3000 i guess! I've always dealt with music in visual wave forms in the past (editing, before i made music) so it's 2nd nature to me...and i am a bit impatient i must admit, like the idea of chopping even into 16 parts when it's a simple case - particularly for remixing where you just need loads of 4 bar sections etc..but exploring shorter hits on the 3000 by ear is deep too. better for building unique breaks!

One thing about the 3000 - i was very surprised to learn about the "not playing the last xth of a second of the sample" thing! It seems to make looping more clunky (mind you i'm no master) and i was surprised that couldn't be fixed on such a tight machine! cha, that's what i paid for roger!! :lol: is there a good reason for that?
By Clint Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:44 pm
perilousselector wrote:i think you're biased on this issue clint :-D


Well if I could only keep one MPC it would be the 4000.

If I could only keep two, it would be the 4000 and the 3000LE.

If I could only keep three, it would be the 4000, the 3000LE and 60 mk1.

If anything I'm generally biased to the Akai Japan MPC's, but that's just me.

But I wasn't feelin the 2000 classic at all, couldn't get rid of that fast enough.