Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By kountryboi84 Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:01 am
Okay so after a lot of research around this subject with a little trial and error I think I've found a solution to a problem that plagues a lot of Mpc users. First there are two different methods and in this post I'll illustrate both to increase your effectiveness.

The first method you will draw in each note. With these methods tempo is very important so instead of using ie. 90bpm you will want to use 180bpm. The chart below will give you note placement with "0" being the down or first beat of the measure or bar.

MPC GRID ROLL STEPS:

1/8 = 0, 48
1/8-3 = 0, 32, 64
1/16 = 0, 24, 48, 72
1/16-3 = 0, 16, 32, 48, 62, 80
1/32 = 0, 12, 24, 36, 48, 60, 72, 84
1/32-3 = 0, 8, 16, 24, 32, 40, 48, 56, 64, 72, 80, 88

So a 1/16 note roll would look like this:

In Grid edit mode (Mode+Pad 15) with Step Record On (Overdub)
** :idea:
1st note- 001.01."00"
2nd note-001.01."24"
3rd note- 001.01."48"
4th note- 001.01."72"
End Measure

Now with the above chart just step record your notes in while using shift+data wheel to advance by tick and shift+bar to advance by note. This method is cool because you have alot of control with where you want to place your notes and with practice its really fast.

Now this second method maybe specific to the JJOS Im not 100% sure but if not this workaround is a little quicker than drawing and will give great results as well.

Auto Step w/ Note repeat:
- Grid Edit=Shift+ Pad 15
- Overdub/step record
- Hold Note repeat
- Use your F-Keys to change the grid settings ie. 1/8 etc.
- Now whatever pad you want to add the roll to the Mpc will now advance automatically after tapping in your notes.
- Then use loop edit + view to adjust the velocity for each note and timing.

:idea: ** While in Grid Edit use the window key to set Step Increment to Auto.

So there it is I really hope this helps those producers like myself that didnt think this was possible with the 1000. I really thought I had to use software to accomplish this but Im getting amazing results this these methods. Let me know if you have any questions and if this helps. Peace.
By phx_chronic Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:48 pm
kountryboi84 wrote:
MPC GRID ROLL STEPS:

1/8 = 0, 48
1/8-3 = 0, 32, 64
1/16 = 0, 24, 48, 72
1/16-3 = 0, 16, 32, 48, 62, 80
1/32 = 0, 12, 24, 36, 48, 60, 72, 84
1/32-3 = 0, 8, 16, 24, 32, 40, 48, 56, 64, 72, 80, 88



^^^ umm, these are wrong IF ur doubling your tempo....

1/8 notes are at 1.01.00, 1.02.00 etc...
1/16= 1.01.00, 1.01.48, 1.02.00 etc (quantize on 1/8)
1/32= 1.01.00, 1.01.24, 1.01.48, 1.01.72 etc (quantize on 1/16)
1/64= 1.01.00, 1.01.12, 1.01.24 etc (quantize on 1/32)
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By peeping tom Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:37 am
set note repeat to value of your choice

hit record

when you want roll to start, hold note repeat and pad together.

done.

i dont get this, its like a massive way of doing a note roll manually when you can do it live man?
By kountryboi84 Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:54 am
Whats up fellas! I apologize for the late response. First let me say that my aim is not to attempt to reinvent the wheel with this but to give Mpc users another tool for their arsenal. To Peeping Toms point this is not the only way but "to Me" this method gives you more control and flexability to achieve similar results of producers like Lex Luger, Mike Will and DJ Toomp.

phx_chronic wrote:
kountryboi84 wrote:
MPC GRID ROLL STEPS:

1/8 = 0, 48
1/8-3 = 0, 32, 64
1/16 = 0, 24, 48, 72
1/16-3 = 0, 16, 32, 48, 62, 80
1/32 = 0, 12, 24, 36, 48, 60, 72, 84
1/32-3 = 0, 8, 16, 24, 32, 40, 48, 56, 64, 72, 80, 88



^^^ umm, these are wrong IF ur doubling your tempo....

1/8 notes are at 1.01.00, 1.02.00 etc...
1/16= 1.01.00, 1.01.48, 1.02.00 etc (quantize on 1/8)
1/32= 1.01.00, 1.01.24, 1.01.48, 1.01.72 etc (quantize on 1/16)
1/64= 1.01.00, 1.01.12, 1.01.24 etc (quantize on 1/32)


Respectfully I dissagree. The chart is based on note values created by the Mpc in grid edit mode for each setting. So if you enter "step" record mode, hold or tap any pad while holding note repeat (simultaneously) set on 1/16th and note there placements. The note values should not change regardless of what tempo you choose double or otherwise only the speed will change. Double timed tempo is optional but in my experience it offers the best result.

peeping tom wrote:set note repeat to value of your choice

hit record

when you want roll to start, hold note repeat and pad together.

done.

i dont get this, its like a massive way of doing a note roll manually when you can do it live man?


LOL I understand your point of view but based on hours of research and little to no worthwhile search results this option offers the most "precise" results. This is partially due to the inabilty to record multiple grid settings in one shot. With note repeat you have to stop re-record multiple takes and the process "to me" becomes more tedious than necessary. So if I know by the chart the exact note placement I can spend more time on other things as opposed to fixing notes.

I will be posting a video by the weekend
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By damien907 Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:14 am
i would like to see a video too, you know on these types of rolls, alot of times they are pitched as well, you might find a little better results if you have snares pitched differently.
By m56p87 Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:05 pm
damien907 wrote:i would like to see a video too, you know on these types of rolls, alot of times they are pitched as well, you might find a little better results if you have snares pitched differently.


Yeah was going to mention this, they usually have parts that are swung as well not just a straight quantized roll.
By Clint Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:23 pm
Are people still using 'southern' snare rolls in 2012?

I would say doing it manuallly on note-repeat and 16 levels (pitch) and then nudging a few notes here and there will do for snare rolls, straight note-repeat isnt good enough.
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By peeping tom Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:08 am
clint246clint wrote:Are people still using 'southern' snare rolls in 2012?



:lol: