Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.

By Toecutter Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:23 pm
Nothing Simba did brought Mustafa back.... just like nothing is gonna make your beats emotional if you don't already know how...
By Ricochet Rock Nice Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:42 am
I feel what Stryke was saying but I like making emotional type beats
most of my friends are dead man there is only a few of us left yall
figure out the rest for me it's nothing to make an emotional type beat
yo go here and check out "AbStRacT Murder" http://www.ArtistNow.com/Playa :cry:

By minus Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:18 am
it was stated earlier that minor notes have a different feel to them than that of ones on major scales. these things are true, any music theory class will tell you this.

since almost everyone here is strictly hip hop (or so i have observed) the sample is really a big part of a songs sequence and mood. therefore i have found that when looking for samples that need to provide an emotionally deep purpose usually samples that start higher pitched and end lower on a lower note tend to be darker, the inverse is also true for happy, sh!t music. **** this happiness stuff i want to slit my wrists and loathe my life.;)

now to the voices on a recording, usually a deep male, soulful, painstricken voice will work. for females i think that a long almost wordless wailing of a voice is the best (like bjork except obviously more soulful and meaty)

with basslines i see the best thing is deep and dirty with long tones and with much grit. i usually like more synth and electro basslines to accompany a otherwise semi organic mix, just gives it some seing in my opinion.

percussion and drums, more my specialty. i like to really widen the sound on all aspects of the drum mix. drum rolls are nice every 4 or 8 bars, don't what ever you do make a 2 bar loop! it sounds unemotional and unintelligent (not always a bad thing though, just does not belong in smart hop). use delay on crash cymbals but not too much, also make sure the cymals sit well in the mix (sometimes overpowering, to me). erratic high hats, open and closed. the biggest thing is vary the sequence of them and keep them under differing levels of complexity, ie fluctuate how intricate the patterns are, but don't overcook your listeners, no tandouri chicken, cool?

i think that the previously explained about covers, in my opinion how you should go about your creation. if you have any more questions ask others around here for their opinions.

ps- for really emotional music, get your dog hit by a car, get dumped by your girlfriend, disowned by family, etc. actually what i would suggest is listen to endroducing the whole way through to get in the mood... peace
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By Skiggy Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:25 am
you just need to get better at making beats, I used to try to make sad "dead homie" type beats that would come out sounding erie and shit, if you just keep making beats and practicing it will come out naturally, music ain't somethin you can force
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By ikke Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:20 pm
Boogie Man wrote:
swamp wrote:ok im having a hard time producing a "emotional" type beat,any tips? i tried starting with the melody aand i get real dark shxt,then i try with the drums and real thugged out shxt,ive be tryin and tryin im a mc juss tryin 2 produce my own shxt so any help would be nice,THNX


Just listen to Portishead....Its a self help guide on how to get emotional with your music....


Any news on that new album yet? It takes ages.. I recently heared a new single on the radio. It was without the female singer Beth Something. Instead it was a male voice. But d*mn,.. it was good! Much better than wich was on their previous albums. Much more groove and not as dark and trippy as before. I cant remember the name of the track tho. :roll:

By mwalker Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:09 pm
in my opinion, an individual must have the music in them. it is like me saying i would like to make a classical piece for a 50 piece orch. impossible, i do not have it in me. like binger said, develop your own style and thru the trails and errors an emotional beat may/will come out. minor chords/scales, the tempo (67 or 134 double time or whatever), etc. the music must be in you in you first.

another point, the mpc is a great product/instrument/sequencer/drum machine but anyone that makes music should learn an instrument (not theory, because the theory is inherited thru the learning of the instrument). it will make you a better producer, beatmaker, song writer and performer. basically, you will know that much more about music (how it is made).

the best producers play an instrument ( quincy jones, dr dre, neptunes, the list goes on).
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By binger0 Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:49 pm
yeah. im learnin the keys now and i used to play bass guitar. it helped me learn the foundations
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By Cheech Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:50 am
minus wrote:
don't what ever you do make a 2 bar loop! it sounds unemotional and unintelligent (not always a bad thing though, just does not belong in smart hop).


so what belongs to "smart hop"? 240 bar loops? Zip disks smuthered with red wine? putting thick glasses on the screen of your mp?

I've made 1 bar loops that would have rocked your socks off. I, of course, have many variations of that 1 bar loop (i.e one with a drum fill, one with out the snare drum etc etc..) and then I change the sequences on the fly to alter the track slightly.