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By JamesJeffery Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:51 am
I've been noticing some small electric shocks from the back of my MPC recently. I thought at first it maybe the jacks I'm using as I noticed the first one when I was touching those, but just I had my hand resting at the back near the volume button whilst I pulled a lead out, as I pulled the lead out I felt another shock, but it was from the point my hand was resting, not the lead.

It's not a static shock, it feels like a very small electric shock. Still enough me make me shout "you **** bastard mpc" when it happens lol!

The lead I was messing with is plugged into my laptops line out. It's a phono lead, with two 1/4" jacks connected so it can go into the MP.

I'm to nervous to **** about any more behind the MPC incase it's a fault ground inside the MPC. I've turned it off now.

I did have the MPC open to swap some buttons around as my "mode" button was ****. I only took the casing off though.

Really not sure what's going on. Any input from others who've had similar issues?

Edit. I also have the output going into a Focusrite soundcard. I've just noticed the same shock when plugging an XLR into the Focusrite that's not connected to the MPC. I recall also feeling a shock when messing with the back of my Pioneer mixer that's hooked to some CDJ's ... also connected to the Focusrite. I wonder if there is some power coming from the Focusrite. I don't have any phantom power enabled on the Focusrite though.

I wonder if that's the cause of all these shocks.
By jimmie Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:30 pm
It's def not a static shock?

If I forget to take my sneakers (Spring Courts) off in my room/studio I always get a damn static shock when I touch my equipment. I hate it, lol.. It makes a loud snap every time.
By atestarr Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:01 pm
The focusrite is getting power from the mains (at least mine is). You should check if everything in your chain is properly grounded with a three prong plug and your outlet itself is grounded. I have a guitar amp from the sixties that is not grounded and I get shocked every time I touch my aluminum laptop.


JamesJeffery wrote:I've been noticing some small electric shocks from the back of my MPC recently. I thought at first it maybe the jacks I'm using as I noticed the first one when I was touching those, but just I had my hand resting at the back near the volume button whilst I pulled a lead out, as I pulled the lead out I felt another shock, but it was from the point my hand was resting, not the lead.

It's not a static shock, it feels like a very small electric shock. Still enough me make me shout "you **** bastard mpc" when it happens lol!

The lead I was messing with is plugged into my laptops line out. It's a phono lead, with two 1/4" jacks connected so it can go into the MP.

I'm to nervous to **** about any more behind the MPC incase it's a fault ground inside the MPC. I've turned it off now.

I did have the MPC open to swap some buttons around as my "mode" button was ****. I only took the casing off though.

Really not sure what's going on. Any input from others who've had similar issues?

Edit. I also have the output going into a Focusrite soundcard. I've just noticed the same shock when plugging an XLR into the Focusrite that's not connected to the MPC. I recall also feeling a shock when messing with the back of my Pioneer mixer that's hooked to some CDJ's ... also connected to the Focusrite. I wonder if there is some power coming from the Focusrite. I don't have any phantom power enabled on the Focusrite though.

I wonder if that's the cause of all these shocks.
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By mr_debauch Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:51 pm
atestarr wrote:The focusrite is getting power from the mains (at least mine is). You should check if everything in your chain is properly grounded with a three prong plug and your outlet itself is grounded. I have a guitar amp from the sixties that is not grounded and I get shocked every time I touch my aluminum laptop.




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sounds like bad grounding... this is most noticeable if you are in a basement with cement floors especially..

as for the old 60's amp, I did a mod (which is actually quite popular) to an old 60's amp head.. replace the power cable with a 3 prong cable and put the ground lead to the chasis. Helps with noise too.
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By JamesJeffery Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:25 pm
Nah defiantly not a static shock. This is more like a weak electric shock. I've been unfortunate to suffer an electric shock, and this feels like a very weak one. Different to a static shock.

I'm going to have to check to see if everything's grounded properly.
By atestarr Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:29 pm
Thanks debauch, that is a great tip. I will have to break out the soldering iron this weekend.

mr_debauch wrote:
atestarr wrote:The focusrite is getting power from the mains (at least mine is). You should check if everything in your chain is properly grounded with a three prong plug and your outlet itself is grounded. I have a guitar amp from the sixties that is not grounded and I get shocked every time I touch my aluminum laptop.




+1


sounds like bad grounding... this is most noticeable if you are in a basement with cement floors especially..

as for the old 60's amp, I did a mod (which is actually quite popular) to an old 60's amp head.. replace the power cable with a 3 prong cable and put the ground lead to the chasis. Helps with noise too.
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By JUKE 179r Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:30 pm
I had a friend get shocked from his 2000XL when in use. It seems the brass grounding strips that made contact to the case were missing. I fabricated some grounding strips for him and no more electrical shocks afterwards.

Definitely use a 3-prong power cord on the MPC and plug it into a power 3-socket recepticle for proper grounding.
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By bliprock Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:34 pm
mr_debauch wrote:
atestarr wrote:as for the old 60's amp, I did a mod (which is actually quite popular) to an old 60's amp head.. replace the power cable with a 3 prong cable and put the ground lead to the chasis. Helps with noise too.

THIS MOD IS TO BE DONE ONLY BY SOME ONE THAT KNOWS THERE SHIT AND IT CAN KILL YOU

I do not want to see someone die is all and must be warned. If you do not know why then you definitely not do it.EVER.
Yes it is a good idea to have it grounded generally, but if in any way you have anything else on your electrics and can ground through the same house circuit you can blow all you gear and also run the risk of getting a major shock and getting killed.

clear enough??

I do not want to go into all the reasons and it would take me ages to explain evry reason, but trust me this is not something that should just be done by some one that does not know there electronics or electrical engineering. Also is illegal in most developed countries like UK, NZ, Australia with out it being passed by proper safety check by qualified technician.

DO AT YOUR OWN RISK !!!
GET IT PASSED!!


It will also invalidate and insurance if you got it and also can make you criminally liable for fire/damage/death
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By mr_debauch Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:26 pm
yah, in australia that might actually be something to consider.. same with UK or europ people..

the mod I mentioned was done in canada.. aimed at out power.. not some other system. So I know it's fine on ours.... maybe that would be a big deal on otheirs. Do your research before attempting something like that...

Here the ground goes to the ground (quite literally, it's typically attached to the main water pipe that comes into the house) ... so having the chassis of your amp connected to a wire that goes into the ground is no big deal safety wise.. But if the wire was connected wrong I suppose it could maybe cause damage, or not work properly, etc.