Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
By turnstile Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:51 am
I have both the REN and the Motif hook to my Mac via their respective USB ports (no MIDI cables needed). I can see all Motif Ports in the REN stand alone apps Midi prefs, but no matter what INs and OUTs I try in the Midi prefs can I get the Motif keyboard to sound its own sounds

Setup:
Motif setup via USB in Utilities w/ LOCAL set to off
In Motif Song Mixer I have CH1 set to say a piano

On REN I have a new track setup using MIDI, sending CH1.
No matter which port I try (and I've tried ALL RENs and ALL Motifs ports) can I get the Motif to sound.

I've used a MPC 4000, Logic, and Protools with my Motif as a controller/sound module without any problems.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Last edited by turnstile on Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
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By JAH Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:02 pm
turnstile wrote:I have both the REN and the Motif hook to my Mac via their respective USB ports (no MIDI cables needed). I can see all Motif Ports in the REN stand alone apps Midi prefs, but no matter what INs and OUTs I try in the Midi prefs can I get the Motif keyboard to sound its own sounds

Setup:
Motif setup via USB in Utilities w/ LOCAL set to off
In Motif Song Mixer I have CH1 set to say a piano

On REN I have a new track setup using MIDI, sending CH1.
No matter which port I try (and I've tried ALL RENs and ALL Motifs ports) can I get the Motif to sound.

I've used a MPC 4000, Logic, and Protools with my Motif as a controller/sound module without any problems.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

In the MPC Software's MIDI Preferences, ensure your Motif is 'checked' as an Active MIDI Input. Also ensure that your Motif is selected in MIDI Out Port A.

Create a MIDI Track, set the Port to A, MIDI Channel 1. With the Motif's Local Off, you should be able to play the Motif's keys to record into the MPC software which will also trigger the sounds in the Motif.

Your Motif should have some type of Studio, Performance or Song Mode which allows you to set up 16 patches assigned to 16 MIDI channels. Be sure to be in this Mode.
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By JAH Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:32 am
Even better....doesn't your Motif include a VST Editor? If so...you can also try inserting this on an MPC Plugin Track.
By turnstile Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:39 am
No on the VST Editor, I believe thats the Motif XS models.

I get nothing. Motif set to Local Off, and its interface set to USB. Go to the Song Mixer window where you assign instruments and channels and I get nothing.

If I load a plugin like The Bank I CAN control it with the Motif so the MPC is getting the input. Just not sending back to the Motif when using a MIDI track.

Any other ideas?
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By JAH Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:59 am
turnstile wrote:No on the VST Editor, I believe thats the Motif XS models.

I get nothing. Motif set to Local Off, and its interface set to USB. Go to the Song Mixer window where you assign instruments and channels and I get nothing.

If I load a plugin like The Bank I CAN control it with the Motif so the MPC is getting the input. Just not sending back to the Motif when using a MIDI track.

Any other ideas?

Something is being missed.

Can your trigger the Motif from the MPC pads?
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By JAH Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:47 am
turnstile wrote:No, the pads wont trigger the Motif when its selected as MIDI/Motif Port 1/CH1

If that is the case, then there are only a few options to double check:
1. MPC MIDI Preferences should display the Motif in the MPC MIDI Out Port A-D
2. Your MPC Track should be set to MIDI with the appropriate Port selected
3. Try triggering the pads using all 8 pad banks

If this is set up right, your Motif should work just fine.

If not, then there is a setting in the Motif that is causing an issue. Perhaps there is a MIDI setting that is disabled. Have you tried connecting another MIDI controller to your Motif to see if it will trigger the Motif sounds?

If all else fails, you can try uninstalling and reinstalling the Ren's MIDI drivers.
By turnstile Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:02 am
JAH wrote:
turnstile wrote:No, the pads wont trigger the Motif when its selected as MIDI/Motif Port 1/CH1

If that is the case, then there are only a few options to double check:
1. MPC MIDI Preferences should display the Motif in the MPC MIDI Out Port A-D
CORRECT
2. Your MPC Track should be set to MIDI with the appropriate Port selected
CORRECT
3. Try triggering the pads using all 8 pad banks
NOTHING ON ALL 8 BANKS

If this is set up right, your Motif should work just fine.

If not, then there is a setting in the Motif that is causing an issue. Perhaps there is a MIDI setting that is disabled. Have you tried connecting another MIDI controller to your Motif to see if it will trigger the Motif sounds?
Ive got many other keyboards BUT nothing that has a USB interface like the Motif. Perhaps Ill try reloading the driver

If all else fails, you can try uninstalling and reinstalling the Ren's MIDI drivers.
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By JAH Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:31 am
If you connect another keyboard to the MIDI In of the Motif....will it trigger sounds?

Is there any setting within the Motif to enable or disable USB MIDI?

Have you taken the MPC out of the equation and just use a DAW with the Motif to see if you have the same problems?
By Montebello Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:23 pm
If I understood your question ... Your trying to hear the motif sounds? Do you have audio cables connected ? Again, if I understood you correctly, you only have midi USB going here but you don't get sound from midi.
By turnstile Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:49 pm
Montebello wrote:If I understood your question ... Your trying to hear the motif sounds? Do you have audio cables connected ? Again, if I understood you correctly, you only have midi USB going here but you don't get sound from midi.


Audio IS plugged in and it can be heard just fine when playing it with Local ON
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By JAH Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:02 pm
What about the additional questions I asked?
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By Rokgod Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:48 pm
JAH wrote:Create a MIDI Track, set the Port to A, MIDI Channel 1. With the Motif's Local Off, you should be able to play the Motif's keys to record into the MPC software which will also trigger the sounds in the Motif.



I think you're mistaken here, Jah. If he sets his Local to Off then the motif's internal sound engine wont output sound no matter what. Turning local off is good when you want to use your keyboard as just a midi keyboard, as it stops any sound coming out of the actual keyboard so you only hear whatever sound you are triggering with midi.