Sampling question

Curious when you guys/girls sample do you lower the bass on your mix or just do the filtering in your MPC?

I am using the MPC 2000xl and was thinking about this.

Been going through some stuff like everyone else and music took a back burner

Lampdog wrote:I use 4k but even if I used my 2kxl I'd still go this same route.
Filter channels in audio interface for me. I like using the interface filters most times.

So you sample through your interface into your 4k?

That's a good idea. I should try that once I get everything set up. Thanks for the response I appreciate it !

Sometimes I will boost the bass in my mixer..

i always sample into my mpc without any eq, then later either during the beat making process (say if im doing the low end theory) i will cut the bass, double it up on a new track, and then cut the highs on that track.

but if im just making a beat and not doing the low end theory, i save all that stuff for mixing and just use the mpc to create the sketch of my beat.

i do this because when i am mixing i want to have full control over the mix, i dont want to have to boost the bass, then come to find out that i already took it all out when i was sampling it.

it just seems like the most logical thing to do imo.

unless you visualize exactly how your beat is going to sound in the final mix, i do nothing that will destructively affect the sample until then.

damien907 wrote:
unless you visualize exactly how your beat is going to sound in the final mix

That is a good point. It seems like the 2000 xl has high pass filter

So just yeterday i was sampling off a record into my 3000. While the kick was clear i found a snare which i really liked but was layere with the kick.

I cut the lows on my mixer and sampled in my 3000. I was surprised how good it sounded. I was going to layer it in my mix with the kick as well as use it separately. So i needed it pretty much clean. The 3000 has only low pass filter by the way

I'm rather new to sampling records in my 3000 as i have just completed my setup recently. I read a lot about eq ing before sampling and now it makes sense to me. I really like it. You have to try it out

Of course you can cut the lows and eq when mixing if you choose to track out on the spot but as i only want to track out when all sounds good on the mpc i want my samples to be sitting nice in the 3000. That way it makes you make decisions and stick to them. Its nice

ah yeah, i was talking more about the main sample of your song, i def play with the filters if i have drums leaking into each other though. i agree, its def important to do beforehand in those situations. good point to bring up!
i mostly use drum libraries, so eq'ing those kinds of things dont come up so often in my workflow.

me, I always sample directly into the 4k without eqing anything on the rane mixer or apply one of the internal effects on the sampler while i´m recording. Before actually using the material I sampled, I will transfer it to wavelab and do some little adjustings there, like fades, removing a little static, peak points and so on. maybe slight compression or eq at this point, very sublte, but usually I just get the sounds back to the sampler and filter the chops in program mode later on

soundtech wrote:That is a good point. It seems like the 2000 xl has high pass filter

the 2000/2000xl does not have a highpass filter.

if you have the eb16 you can fake it, but there is no highpass filter built in.

How do you fake the highpass? Using the EQ? Is it possible to automate the EQ also?

Bathmutz wrote:How do you fake the highpass? Using the EQ? Is it possible to automate the EQ also?

yes, using the eq.
you can 'automate' in that you can modulate it with an lfo.

but not traditional automation nor a traditional filter like you are thinking of in daw terms.

tapedeck wrote:

Bathmutz wrote:How do you fake the highpass? Using the EQ? Is it possible to automate the EQ also?

yes, using the eq.
you can 'automate' in that you can modulate it with an lfo.

but not traditional automation nor a traditional filter like you are thinking of in daw terms.

Not hard at all to do a high pass on the EB.
I guess people forget that the EQ in the EB is just filters and part the reason they don't work they way people want them to is because they are setup like filters.