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By MPCWeapon1 Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:44 pm
crossings wrote:
ntalec wrote:
crossings wrote:use tap tempo while listening to the loop... problem solved.


It's funny no matter what forum this has ever been talked about on people just don't get what people are talking about.

How will tap tempo allow you to change and work with chops of varying tempo and pitch the same way that the Beat Loop does?

Simple answer it can't.

Again it's not about loops or working inside a sequence.



i know exactly what you're talking about and i'm suggesting the obvious... use tap tempo to figure out the BPM and then pitch/tune your samples accordingly... you know, by actually using your ears and making music rather than just having a machine automatically do it for you... MPCs were never really designed with playing loops as a priority... but you already know this... and yes what you're talking about IS about loops if you're asking for the MPC to automatically detect BPM from a loop


The MPC can automatically detect BPM from a loop. Well not automatically as you have to tell it how many bars and beats are in the loop first.

The stock OS for the 2500 really wasn't good with tempo detection like the 2000XL, but with the latest version of JJOSXL the tempo detection feature is just as good as the 2000XL.
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By Funkydrops Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:05 pm
MPCWeapon1 wrote:The MPC can automatically detect BPM from a loop. Well not automatically as you have to tell it how many bars and beats are in the loop first.

The stock OS for the 2500 really wasn't good with tempo detection like the 2000XL, but with the latest version of JJOSXL the tempo detection feature is just as good as the 2000XL.


I'm on the latest version of JJOSXL too and never saw that feature (never looked for it, indeed) nor I could say that I'd know where to look at neither... can you please point me to where it is located? even JJOSXL manual ref. would be good...
By ntalec Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:32 pm
crossings wrote:
ntalec wrote:
crossings wrote:use tap tempo while listening to the loop... problem solved.


It's funny no matter what forum this has ever been talked about on people just don't get what people are talking about.

How will tap tempo allow you to change and work with chops of varying tempo and pitch the same way that the Beat Loop does?

Simple answer it can't.

Again it's not about loops or working inside a sequence.



i know exactly what you're talking about and i'm suggesting the obvious... use tap tempo to figure out the BPM and then pitch/tune your samples accordingly... you know, by actually using your ears and making music rather than just having a machine automatically do it for you... MPCs were never really designed with playing loops as a priority... but you already know this... and yes what you're talking about IS about loops if you're asking for the MPC to automatically detect BPM from a loop


Why do you keep saying loops?
It's about your chops.


If it was about loops it would be a million a one ways to go about it, not so much with chops.

Only 2 MPC have the ability to do it this way and that's sad but explains why people don't get it :hmmm: .
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By MPCWeapon1 Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:12 pm
Funkydrops wrote:
MPCWeapon1 wrote:The MPC can automatically detect BPM from a loop. Well not automatically as you have to tell it how many bars and beats are in the loop first.

The stock OS for the 2500 really wasn't good with tempo detection like the 2000XL, but with the latest version of JJOSXL the tempo detection feature is just as good as the 2000XL.


I'm on the latest version of JJOSXL too and never saw that feature (never looked for it, indeed) nor I could say that I'd know where to look at neither... can you please point me to where it is located? even JJOSXL manual ref. would be good...


Im not in front of my MP right now, but I think it's trim mode then edit/time stretch and then you should see a tempo tab. Then it should ask how many bars and beats are in the loop and detect the tempo.

If that's not it, I'll post when I get to the house, in front of the MP, with the exact steps.
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By MPCWeapon1 Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:43 pm
MPCWeapon1 wrote:
Funkydrops wrote:
MPCWeapon1 wrote:The MPC can automatically detect BPM from a loop. Well not automatically as you have to tell it how many bars and beats are in the loop first.

The stock OS for the 2500 really wasn't good with tempo detection like the 2000XL, but with the latest version of JJOSXL the tempo detection feature is just as good as the 2000XL.


I'm on the latest version of JJOSXL too and never saw that feature (never looked for it, indeed) nor I could say that I'd know where to look at neither... can you please point me to where it is located? even JJOSXL manual ref. would be good...


Im not in front of my MP right now, but I think it's trim mode then edit/time stretch and then you should see a tempo tab. Then it should ask how many bars and beats are in the loop and detect the tempo.

If that's not it, I'll post when I get to the house, in front of the MP, with the exact steps.



These were the right steps....hope that helped.
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By Lampdog Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:01 am
ntalec wrote:
Lampdog wrote:I've always done loops on 2kxl manually, tune, tick nudge, etc.


Don't don't think loops think about matching the tempo of chops.
If you take chops from different sources and use them together the Beat Loop function allows you to quickly match them similar to how you would match the tempo on turntables.

I am not stuck thinking loops. I dont like using them and rarely do.
Also understand but never seriously used any beat loop or bpm detection functions. I do this manually because I'm old school and it's what I'm used to, not worried and never will be worried about anything "quickly". Never needed to know the bpm of my chops. I'm more analog than digital but understand both (referring to old/new ways of thinking.)
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By SimonInAustralia Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:53 am
ntalec wrote:How will tap tempo allow you to change and work with chops of varying tempo and pitch the same way that the Beat Loop does?

Can you please explain the workflow for matching like this?

I understand that it is calculating the tempo based on how many bars/beats you tell it is in the looped section, but how are you then using that to match things up?
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By no konka's Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:49 pm
somethings the eyes don't need to see,but with music the ears are most important :hmmm: i never use tempo detect nothing,even if i have a chop/slice of a break/loop i will use my nut and hear the sound change up and down until it sounds right.
i find the workflow this way is more creative/and funny enough quicker,not that im in a hurry.that's why i gave up on p.c's.no creative juicy's flowing at all.to much time fiddlin with numbers.