Keygroup 'Span' column changing from MIDI numbers to pitch

Making a bunch of keygroups ATM and finding that sometimes the 'Span' (Low/Hi) column in the PROGRAM > PITCH screen is changing from showing a MIDI note numbers (e.g. 36 - 38) to showing musical pitches (i.e. C1 - D1). The 4000 manual makes no reference to that column ever using MIDI note numbers, only musical pitches.

Is there a way to revert it to MIDI numbers if preferred?

MPC-Tutor wrote:Is there a way to revert it to MIDI numbers if preferred?

I don't think there is.

I've never seen the span represented as MIDI note numbers, but mapping out keygroups in the 4K is like having teeth pulled anyway! It's appreciably easier through AKsys if you can get it working, but even then, it's not like skipping through the park whistling your favourite tune. It's all a bit clunky.

Coz wrote:

MPC-Tutor wrote:Is there a way to revert it to MIDI numbers if preferred?

I don't think there is.

I've never seen the span represented as MIDI note numbers, but mapping out keygroups in the 4K is like having teeth pulled anyway! It's appreciably easier through AKsys if you can get it working, but even then, it's not like skipping through the park whistling your favourite tune. It's all a bit clunky.

I'll take a screen picture next time it happens, but yes, I get the impression it's some kind of glitch, although very handy when you're dealing with samples with the MIDI note number in their name.

TBH making keygroups on the 4000 is not that bad, it's the best option for me whenever I want something that will work across multiple samplers, it's much quicker than making keygroups on any of the other MPCs, for example the way the MPC4000 remembers the last sample assigned (a godsend when working with zones) - but even mundane stuff like setting root notes on hundreds of samples is much quicker in the 4000 (it's hell on the 5000). As long as it's not too complex the resulting AKP loads well into the 5000, Ren and Maschine, with only minor tweaking required.

MPC-Tutor wrote:TBH making keygroups on the 4000 is not that bad, it's the best option for me whenever I want something that will work across multiple samplers, it's much quicker than making keygroups on any of the other MPCs, for example the way the MPC4000 remembers the last sample assigned (a godsend when working with zones) - but even mundane stuff like setting root notes on hundreds of samples is much quicker in the 4000 (it's hell on the 5000). As long as it's not too complex the resulting AKP loads well into the 5000, Ren and Maschine, with only minor tweaking required.

That's cool if it translates to other samplers.

There's a few quirks that needed ironing out that they never got round to, which is a shame.

MPC-Tutor wrote:Making a bunch of keygroups ATM and finding that sometimes the 'Span' (Low/Hi) column in the PROGRAM > PITCH screen is changing from showing a MIDI note numbers (e.g. 36 - 38) to showing musical pitches (i.e. C1 - D1). The 4000 manual makes no reference to that column ever using MIDI note numbers, only musical pitches.

Is there a way to revert it to MIDI numbers if preferred?

Hi Tutor,

If the program is a keygroup just hit 'pitch' again to toggle between midi numbers/musical pitches.

Best,
M

Hah, so simple in the end! Yes, working a treat, thank you very much

There you go!